"Voice Recognition & CaptioningLow Threshold Applications (LTAs)"
Friday, Feb 28, 2014, 2-3:30PM ET: Steve Gilbert, Bonnie Mullinix, et al.
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Text Chat Transcript - 3 sections of full text below
[Most comments about microphone adjustments, etc. omitted]
1. Prelims - Greetings, informal mentions 1:45-2:00PM ET
2. Actual Session - Links, descriptions, comments, questions from participants 2-3:00PM ET
3. Afterthoughts Planning next session on Voice Transcription, sharing more links, resources 3-3:30PM ET
I hope you find all this interesting and useful!
- Steve Gilbert, President, TLT Group Feb 28, 2014
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1. PRELIMS 1:45-2:00PM ET
Greetings, informal mention of a few Apps, Fundamental Questions
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Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:Welcome to Friday Live! We will begin within the next 10 minutes.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:Meanwhile, please take a moment introduce yourselves here in chat (where you are from, interesting tidbit, whatever you choose to share).
Sally Gilbert, TLT Group:Sally Gilbert TLT Group. Starting to reread Middlemarch.
Sonya Woods:Sonya Woods, WCLD - accessibility focus - love Middlemarch
Beverly Benfer, lccc.edu:Beverly Benfer, Director of Distance Ed & Instructional Technology at Lehigh Carbon Community College, near Allentown, PA
Douglas Brace:Douglas Brace; Technology Supervisor for Distance Education and Instructional Technology at Lehigh Carbon Community College a few miles away from Allentown, Pennsylvania
Carolyn D:Audio seems to cut out every so often
Jackie Ritzko:Jackie Ritzko, Instructional Designer at Penn State, (will need to leave at 2:30)
Carolyn D:Can't hear what you are sayig --- its's cutting out pretty frequently and am only catching a few words
Penny Kuckkahn, Nicolet College:Beth is Sitting in the Chicago airport as I type
David Parker:hi bonnie, san luis, yuma, az
David Parker:2 miles from mx
Sally Gilbert, TLT Group:ole!
David Parker:a little low, steve
David Parker:yes
David White:Hi David Parker
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group:LTAs: low "cost" in dollars, time, stress - easy to learn, use and get rapid benefit
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group:Lots of LTAs are like the better Apps!
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group:http://goo.gl/zVh9fA
Kelvin Bentley (Cuyahoga CC):We are not members but will it be possible for us to receive the recording link after the webinar?
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:VOC today: Nancy Smulsky
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:VOT: Penny Kuckkahn (& Dale Diigo repository)
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:Special Thanks to these three today!
Cheryl Knight:What was the hashtag we're using?
Penny Kuckkahn, Nicolet College:#tltgFRLV
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:@ Kevin (CCC) - special request to Sally and Steve Gilbert towards end of session (with an idea of how you hope to use it) will get you a more definitive answer.
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2. ACTUAL SESSION CA. 2-3PM ET
Links, descriptions, additional Apps offered by participants--------------------------------------------
Patty B:transcription of videos that are recorded in the classroom (lecture capture)
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:What are you hoping to accomplish with voice-to-text possibilities:
Alexa Schriempf:more student and faculty upload of captioned audio content
Jan O.:Quality is the main issue--having the transcription or caption accurate.
Elizabeth Pyatt:I hope people will begin to understand why there is no magic button yet and take appropriate steps.
Yao Hill:Produce video tutorials for workshop participants that's accessible
Sonya Woods:I am in higher ed accessibility and I want to learn about tools instructors and students can use to create accessible content so that all students have access to what is created.
bob:seachable video
David Parker:concepts captured correctly, if not exact.
Cindy Potteiger:Ease of use
Beverly Benfer, lccc.edu:As more instructors record short video tutorials, flip classrooms or classroom capture, captioning is more important. But expensive for a community college.
Leanne Urasaki:easy to use - for faculty & students, accuracy or easily edit-able
Alexa Schriempf:all of the above!!
Mary Ann Mengel, Penn State Berks:Identify a few manageable workflows that simplify the process of making video and audio-based elearning accessible
Yao Hill:able to edit is important
Nancy Calsolaro Smulsky:cutting in and out
Douglas Brace:Standardization... making sure that instructors and students are doing the same steps and using the same tool(s)
Leanne Urasaki:Audio ok from Hawaii (wired connection)
Traci Caitlyn, LMS Support WCU:cuttng n and out for me too
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:we hear you nancy
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:or did
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:not now
David Parker:Accuracy of capture
Leanne Urasaki:captioning for recordings already made (retro-fitting)
David Parker:easy for me to read, steve
David Parker:a way to only capture one stream [e.g. lecturer]
Alexa Schriempf:i second david parker's point
Alexa Schriempf:eg, in a noisey room
Elizabeth Pyatt:helping instructors understand the importance of writing a script before recording a lecture. This helps with captioning
David Parker:accuracy
Elizabeth Pyatt:Also accuracy
David Parker:first two on your list for me
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:accuracy of transcripton?
Elizabeth Pyatt:accuracy in word choice/spelling and not assuming voice recognition got everything
Sonya Woods:great book
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:"eat shoots and leaves" "eat, shoots and leaves"
Elizabeth Pyatt:Speakers don't speak written English. Punctuation rules will priobably different!
David Parker:student acceptance
Jan O.:Incompatibility with video sytem used
Douglas Brace:student acceptance may be a additional form of "effort"
Leanne Urasaki:Questions of whose responsibilty (faculty, or college)
Dolores Brzycki:technology can combine words that are not distinct into something totally different - beyond homonyms and punctuation
David Parker:but technical effort vs. marketing effort
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:@ Elizabeth, I wanted to underscore and note your earlier point - that we all need to remember that we are still far away from having very easy voice-to-text transcription software that can differentiate speakers and correctly capture what is being said.
Douglas Brace:@David, that is true
David Parker:not to star trek yet...:P
Alexa Schriempf:Isn't google working on voice recognition?
Yao Hill:so what are some tools to do so?
Douglas Brace:EVERYONEi is working on voice recognition
Alexa Schriempf:Yeah but doesn't Google have hte most money to do so?
David Parker:https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/voice-recognition/ikjmfindklfaonkodbnidahohdfbdhkn?hl=en
David Parker:for alexa
Douglas Brace:current development versions of Google Chrome or coming with "clickless" voice search
Alexa Schriempf:students don't want to do extra work that isn't graded
Yao Hill:The only one that I know is dragon naturally speaking
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:@ Doug - so true... getting better every day!... but hearing 1 voice is different from transcribing a group.
Douglas Brace:@Bonnie, definitely true
Lynda Harding, California State University, Fresno:I used two computers to capture screencasts. One to capture the screencast (using Keynote which would save as a movie) and one to capture text using Dragon. Main problem was Dragon transcript was continuous unpunctuated stream.
David Parker:acceptance of the technology used or old technology kept
Dolores Brzycki:Some students are irritated or distracted by signers, so I suppose some might not like having captions. On the other hand, this would be offset by students who like having the additional input - speakers of FL or students listening to technical material that is hard to understand
Douglas Brace:@Yao, the hard/difficult part of voice to text systems are that they have to be trained
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:@ Yao - Dragon Naturally Speaking is and has been at the lead. It is brilliant for that one speaker translation (provided you train it and talk your punctuation).
Yao Hill:of course both microsoft and apple has voice recognition functions. I heard that microsoft voice recognition of both English and other languages are pretty good.
Douglas Brace:you have to read speaches that are already prepared so that it learns their voice
Leanne Urasaki:@Lynda - we've done similar, feeding back recordings through Dragon to capture text, but then need to put in time to punctuate & add time codes, and then uploading to program to create captions
Yao Hill:YEAH!
Douglas Brace:reading the prepared texts take a lot of time and effort
Penny Kuckkahn, Nicolet College:amara.org is one site
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group:Creative Commons
David Parker:i love smart phones and tablets, but i wish they could include control/function keys
Cheryl Knight:Creative Commons doesn't necessarily mean that content is accessible.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group:Dragon
Cheryl Knight:There are a lot of CC licensed materials that are not fully compliant.
David Parker:dragon = dragging...:P\
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:http://us.creativecommons.org/
Yao Hill:I have never been successful for Dragon to transcribe interviews
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:@ Cheryl - good point re: accessibility.
Yao Hill:As Doug said, you really need to train it.
bob:FWIW - The dragon software is a product of Nuance, which is what Apple's Suri is built on.
Douglas Brace:that is correct bob
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:Dragon Naturally Speaking: http://www.nuance.com/dragon/index.htm
David White:Yes, Dragon is much improved and works very well in my recent experience.
Lynda Harding, California State University, Fresno:Dragon training is pretty quick. I also got the index from the textbook publisher and uploaded vocabulary
Yao Hill:I see. What I have is from 4 years ago.
Alexa Schriempf:i use swype on my android phone
Alexa Schriempf:swype based on dragon
Leanne Urasaki:Good for us in Hawaii with accents and a lot of words that normal VTT programs don't understand
Alexa Schriempf:the speech recogntion is fanastic
Patty B:I used Dragon with a PC to add notes text to the slides via voice.
Sally Gilbert, TLT Group:Welcome Lynda Harding! Long time no see.
Patty B:It worked well once I had done the training.
Leslie Harris:I have used Dragon to take notes of reading materials. (Headset microphone). Dragon is very accurate, except when you use academic jargon that is not part of its typical dictionary.
Lynda Harding, California State University, Fresno:are you hearing me?
Lynda Harding, California State University, Fresno:How do I turn on microphone?
Patty B:Steve, did I understand you to say Dragon could take a recorded (e.g., mp3 file) and then convert that to text?
Lynda Harding, California State University, Fresno:I think I'm on
bob:I've used Dragon Dictation on my iPhone 3G. never had to train it, and it's always been spot on in terms of accuracy.
Yao Hill:Hi Patty, I've been trying that function with no success.
Alexa Schriempf:ROFL
Jan O.:However, if you are just recording the voice, it still doesn't provide info of other happenings that are still auditory (music, laughing, etc.) Is that accurate enough? I am not sure.
Yao Hill:Dragon works well for native speakers who speak so called standard English
Penny Kuckkahn, Nicolet College:@Jan our support services is asking the same question
Yao Hill:I am a speaker of Chinese, and it doesn't always work well
Patty B:Thanks, Yao. I'll have to give it a shot...
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:@ Jan - I believe you are correct.
Beverly Benfer, lccc.edu:@ Yao. I agree. Some of our instructors have heavy accents and Dragon was not very successful for them.
Yao Hill:Hi Patty, I hope that the recent versions of Dragon will work much better.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:@ Yao - you are right. Even when you train, it does not always recognize any kind of accent.
Patty B:Thanks for speaking to that point, Steve.
Alexa Schriempf:MacSpeak Scribe is the software for importing mp3 files, it can handle up to dix voice profiles
Alexa Schriempf:*dix = six
Patty B::)
Alexa Schriempf:yes you tube lets you add correct captions
Alexa Schriempf:so does Vimeo
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:@ Alexa - 6 distinct/different voice profiles = 6 diff speakers?
Alexa Schriempf:@Bonnie -- yes
Alexa Schriempf:i spoke with nuance directly at length on this topic
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:ie - voice profile is the "training" so it can hear/differentiate speakers?
Alexa Schriempf:yes
Alexa Schriempf:my method....
Alexa Schriempf:i had a student who couldn't use her hands to write
Alexa Schriempf:or take notes
Yao Hill:Are you saying that keynote has the capability to transcribe sound?
Alexa Schriempf:so we were thinking of equipping her with two dragon softwares
Alexa Schriempf:one for operating her machine
Alexa Schriempf:the other (macspeak scribe) to handle 6 profiles
Alexa Schriempf:she would have to do the training herself after class lecture capture through editing files
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:@ Alexa - That's the breakthrough researchers (educational & otherwise) have been waiting for... assuming the 'training' is not too long/easy to do.
Alexa Schriempf:not so much of a breakthrtough
Alexa Schriempf:b/c my goal is to reduce the amount of time OUTSIDE class for students
Alexa Schriempf:but, yers,
Alexa Schriempf:a step in the right direction
Alexa Schriempf:i am not sure if, however, there is 6 profiles for the pc version
Alexa Schriempf:re you tube
Alexa Schriempf:TEACH ACT
Alexa Schriempf:allows content for classroom use
Alexa Schriempf:to be captioned
Alexa Schriempf:as long as you put it in secure course content
bob:yes, it should.
Yao Hill:How to use the caption function in YouTube?
nikki:Will Dragon take speech from speakers here and now and transcribe to this chat or a text pod in Adobe Connect?
Cheryl Knight:Allowing a video to be downloaded is an option
Alexa Schriempf:@nikiki -- yes
Alexa Schriempf:but you probably need to feed the audio recording of this chat to the mac speak scribe which can handle 6 voices
bob:but, YouTube's auto captioning capability leaves a lot to be desired. It takes me as long to edit the auto transctription as it would for me to transcrib it from scratch.
Dolores Brzycki:I do not have personal experience, but one of our people in communications told me this works
Mary Ann Mengel, Penn State Berks:The captions and the video file are separate. You can download a caption file that YouTube has created.
Cheryl Knight:I believe tha you can download the captions as captions but not as a transcript document.
bob:You can download the caption file (.srt, .vtt) as a stand alone file.
Leanne Urasaki:Depending on your speech and vocabulary used, it can take longer to edit than to create from scratch.
bob:sorry I don't have a mic at the moment.
Jan O.:We also have tried Youtube, and it is hilarious! It is not acceptable.
Cheryl Knight:If you have a transcript as a second document and upload it , then it matches quite well.
Lynda Harding, California State University, Fresno:That might mean you could get a Dragon transcript, edit it, upload it to YOuTube (which can use that to make the clsoed caption) then download. Do you get the timings?
Jan O.:Inside, the corrected text has to match the incorrect text, which isn't likely the case
Alexa Schriempf:AND VIMEO
Lynda Harding, California State University, Fresno:I'll try to find the captioning software I looked at
Alexa Schriempf:Vimeo has seriously made captioning good, with its HMTL5 platform
Leanne Urasaki:Yes, that would be useful
Patty B:Yep, yep, yep -- I'd like to explore further with assistance from those who know more!
Mary Ann Mengel, Penn State Berks:If you have no other way to create the time code, downloading YouTube's .srt file will give you YouTube's "approximation of the transcript" along with the appropriate time code.
Dale Parker:Do you mean an overview or training session?
Leanne Urasaki:capabilities, pros/cons, how-to?
Alexa Schriempf:@ Mary Ann Mengel -- nice!
Lynda Harding, California State University, Fresno:I think you need to do editing first, then you don't mess up timing
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:Mary Ann - do you have a mic?
Mary Ann Mengel, Penn State Berks:Yes
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:@ Mary Ann - I just gave you a mic
Cheryl Knight:Youtube has a very good feature that allows you to upload a transcript from a word processing file
Cheryl Knight:It will automatically sync the written words in the file with the audio on the uploaded video
Cheryl Knight:no time stamps needed
Lynda Harding, California State University, Fresno:Yes, Cheryl, that was what I was thinking of
bob:I use Camtasia to create captioned video. It allows me to upload a transcription file and sync the text and video manually. or if I don't have a transcription file, I can transcribe it directly in the software while the video plays. Once that's done, you can export the video with captions (open or closed), as well as the separate .srt file.
nikki:Can a transcriptionist come into a session in Adobe Connect and transcribe what we are saying right now?
Mary Ann Mengel, Penn State Berks:Cheryl is also correct that YouTube can match your transcript very closely and add the time code.
Penny Kuckkahn, Nicolet College:@cheryl I am very interested in the details of a transcript file
Alexa Schriempf:@nikki: yes, but that would have to be arranged before hand
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group:FOR NEXT TIME: YOUTUBE DRAGON CAMTASIA
Leanne Urasaki:I recommend to our faculty: If you're only doing one or two videos, editing YouTube videos are do-able, but if plan to do a lot, may want to consider training Dragon to learn their speech, accents, and vocabular
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group:FOR NEXT TIME: YOUTUBE DRAGON CAMTASIA VIMEO
Lynda Harding, California State University, Fresno:I would like to end up with some how-to documents.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:Questions about "Next session" focus: Dale Parker: Do you mean an overview or training session?Leanne Urasaki: capabilities, pros/cons, how-to?
Dale Parker:Designated Learner?
Cheryl Knight:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpk4rV8rP3E
Cheryl Knight:Here is a video about adding transcripts to youtube pdf
Jan O.:We have done a study where we used YouTube type in the translation live, then edit the minor errors that naturally happen. Once we did all that and then converted it as necessary for our Ensemble video repository, that the cost of personnel time was more than paying for an outside transcription/captioning service. So time needed for accuracy are the largest barriers.
nikki:yes, a live transcriber
Alexa Schriempf:I thought nikki was talking abotu CART
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:@ Jan - I liked your comment earlier that your YouTube experience was "hilarious"and unacceptable".
Alexa Schriempf:live transcriber = captionist
Jan O.:Just 2 weeks ago.
Beverly Benfer, lccc.edu:@ Bonnie - Turn on captioning for JFK's inaugural speech. Accuracy is really sad - after you stop laughing
Jan O.:It was just based on two people doing the work needed and their time and costs based on their salaries. Nothing more than that. We figured it took $160 for 1 hour of video, which is about the same as outsourcing.
bob:In terms ov Vimeo, You can upload a caption file, but Vimeo doesn't offer auto transcription yet.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:@Cheryl - thanks for the link. YouTube won't play it for me right now... but it looks like it might be good reference for folk to watch (4.54 min).
Jan O.:It isn't much at all except what I mentioned above
Lynda Harding, California State University, Fresno:Yes -- students liked hearing the cat purr
Jan O.:I am reading the ADA regulations, and quality is very important.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group:Google Voice
Penny Kuckkahn, Nicolet College:Thanks for the session. Have to run.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group:Devices -
Alexa Schriempf:add Dale Parker's suggestion: https://dictation.io/
Alexa Schriempf:swype for android
Cheryl Knight:Before we close out. We are from Cuyahoga Community College and would love to share the link with our Accessibilty Work Team. Would it be possible to e-mail a link to kelvin.bentley@tri-c.edu
Alexa Schriempf:amazing
Cheryl Knight:I saw swype, but it made me nervous beause it stated that it recorded every keystroke, including passwords
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:@ Alexa - do you mean the speaker on a swype active keyboard? (for Android?)
Alexa Schriempf:correct
Sally Gilbert, TLT Group:@patcsn Can you tell us your name?
Alexa Schriempf:swype is built by nuance/dragon
Alexa Schriempf:yes
Cheryl Knight:The recording from today's session
Sally Gilbert, TLT Group:@bob Can you tell us your name?
Dale Parker:I have put all the links in Diigo
Alexa Schriempf:as cheryl points out, it records your gestures
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:It is no surprize that most things come from Dragon Naturally Speaking - it has the most time on this task.
Cheryl Knight:Thank you.
Alexa Schriempf:the reason for that is that it uses "living language" to increase accuracy
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group:http://tlt.gs/diigo
Dale Parker:yes
Patty B:can you go back to the previous slide with the resources?
nikki:WebAIM is excellent for accessibility "how-to" training, etc.
Patty B:The one with Ohio State?
Patty B:Oh, super. Thanks so much!
Alexa Schriempf:what is the blog site? my first time with this group
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group:http://tlt.gs/blog
nikki:EASI is great...I know the founder personally!
nikki:yep
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3. AFTERTHOUGHTS 3-3:30PM ET
"Is there an App for this?" Obstacles, more links, descriptions, additional Apps offered by participants and our favorite App Guys!
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Patty B:I've got to run now, but thanks for a good session. I'll look forward to Part 2!
Jan O.:I have to go... I will try to take a peek at the blog
Leslie Harris:Need to go as well. Thanks for the discussion!
zeren:Thank you.. Very informative..
Jan O.:Wasn't anything... Not really a study, but an analysis of cost comparisons is all.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:@ Jan O - maybe just a slide or two?
Leanne Urasaki:Thanks, got to run to another meeting.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:That analysis is important for us to think about.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:Leanne, Jan & anyone else - thanks for being with us today! Enjoy the weekend.
Alexa Schriempf:don't' forget students who will need to do the captions themselves
Lavern:Thanks
nikki:I'd like to see if Adbe Cnnect has a live transcription option.....give me a mic?
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:nikki - you have a mic
Alexa Schriempf:what about voice recognition of math.
nikki:ty
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:@ Alexa - you have great points. It is actually alot about the punctuation (or formulas) which have to be spoken in a certain way.
Alexa Schriempf:you would probably have a court reporter inputting into a note pag
Alexa Schriempf:pog
Alexa Schriempf:poD
Alexa Schriempf:btw, i'm deaf, folks
Lynda Harding, California State University, Fresno:I can see it
Dale Parker:Alexa how are you "hearing" us?
Alexa Schriempf:Heh
Alexa Schriempf::)
Alexa Schriempf:i'm a cochlear implant user
Alexa Schriempf:so i should say i was born deaf
Dale Parker:Ok great
Alexa Schriempf:LOL
Alexa Schriempf:I have an idea -- why not ask Adobe to make a CART pod?
Alexa Schriempf:which anyone could turn on/off at will
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:@Alexa - no wonder you are so "up" on this technology.
Alexa Schriempf:@bonnie -- yep. thought i should disclose fully
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:CART = ______?
Alexa Schriempf:captioned access real time
Alexa Schriempf:usu a court reporter
Alexa Schriempf:specially trained to input phonemes which then special sotware translates to english words
Alexa Schriempf:goes MUCH faster than typing one letter at a time
Alexa Schriempf:(thank you for the attention!)
Alexa Schriempf:correct
Alexa Schriempf:very expensive
Dale Parker:Thank you for educating us
Alexa Schriempf:sure!
Alexa Schriempf:Ack!
Alexa Schriempf:that "Sure" was earlier
Alexa Schriempf:but, ya, I should help out
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:@Alexa - was that "sure" for this request to help... or earlier - right - earlier.
Lynda Harding, California State University, Fresno:I need to put together something summarizing what I've been doing for my own colleauges If I get it done, I'll share it with you and you can decide if I would be usefl.
Alexa Schriempf:lynda, i'll work with you
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:Anyone interested in helping, please put your email here in chat.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:Jan O.
Lynda Harding, California State University, Fresno:Thanks, Alexa. lyndah@csufresno.edu
Alexa Schriempf:ats169@psu.edu
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:It was Patty B who wanted to see this and she had to leave earlier.
Dale Parker:If it is after April 1st. Im in FL with a week wifi
Dale Parker:a weak wifi
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:nikki - add your email here for us.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:to be Designated learner (Nikki).
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:Beth will get in touch with everyone.
Dale Parker:Yes
Alexa Schriempf:i had to step out a min, so i missed why we are talking about a date...
Alexa Schriempf:got it
Alexa Schriempf:fascinating to me too, thanks!
Dale Parker:Yes got to head out to the beach Have a great weekend
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:Friday Live! always on Fridays ;-) Planning often Wednesday (afternoons).
Lynda Harding, California State University, Fresno:I'm so glad I happened on this. Thanks!
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:Consolences Dale - too bad about your beach time.
Alexa Schriempf:im going to test google's app for transcribing math
Sonya Woods:thank you
Lavern:Thanks..
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group:Thanks Alexa!
Alexa Schriempf:And thank you, all!
Dale Parker:Yes Bonnie so sorry you are not here
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