Boldly Going Where You May Not Have Before..."
Please find below: Text chat transcript (including many links shared by FridayLive! participants) and links to other resources (slides, archives)
Theresa Beery tlt.gs/beery
Professor, Director, Center for Education Research
University of Cincinnati, College of Nursing
Dustin Shell tlt.gs/shell
Learning Consultant, TiER1 Performance Solutions
Session Description
Building community online can be challenging. We “quickly” put a course online that we thought would be face-to-face with two major goals: (1) Create the sense of community that we have in the classroom and (2) facilitate students constructing knowledge together. Participants will share in discussion of using technology (blogs, wikis, video introductions, audio comments, a synchronous class) to build community. We will offer lessons learned: the good, the bad, and the ugly.
Digital Archive
Full recording of this online session, which includes audio, slides, and text chat. If you registered in advance for this FridayLive! session you will automatically receive a copy of the link to the archive at the same email address you used to register. if you are a member of the TLT group you can always use this link tlt.gs/memarchives to access the full collection of available archived sessions.
Slides Published Separately
Beery & Shell's presentation slides + Steve Gilbert's intro/close slides.
Polls
Developed for this session.
Text Chat Transcript...
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (4/27/2012 13:51) These slides: http://tlt.gs/
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (13:51) Greetings, Welcome to Friday Live! Our session will start at 2 pm
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (13:52) Guest recording of answers to Fundamental Questions: http://youtu.be/3D1YEJeQ-Es
Gail Feigenbaum: (13:53) I'm back in, but I can't hear anything
Sally Gilbert, TLT Group: (13:54) nice pic
Linda Unger, SPD Online, Stony Brook Univ.: (13:54) Just mentioning to presenters: we are hearing your conversation, and there is no option to send a chat to presenters only.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (13:56) Thanks Linda.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (13:56) We know you can hear all... there is no way to just have presenters talk.
Gail Feigenbaum 2: (13:56) Sally--I can hear now....thanks!
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (13:56) "Building a Sense of Community in an Online Environment: Boldly Going Where You May Not Have Before..."
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (13:57) is our topic for today. We are now beginning our pre-session
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (13:59) http://youtu.be/3D1YEJeQ-Es
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:00) Please feel free to introduce yourself here in chat (name, institution, role, interests)
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:00) PLS USE THIS 2 MINS TO WATCH THE YOUTUBE VIDEO PREPARED BY DUSTIN AVAIL
Linda Unger, SPD Online, Stony Brook Univ.: (14:01) Steve, Could you please repeat instructions for viewing the video?
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:01) DD
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:01) Just click on and or copy the link & paste it into your browser: http://youtu.be/3D1YEJeQ-Es
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:01) We are currnetly listening to the link above.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:02) NO SOUND FROM US NOW - HOPE YOU'RE WATCHING/HEARING THIS YOUTUBE VIDEO
Linda Unger, SPD Online, Stony Brook Univ.: (14:02) Thank you Bonnie. Clicking on the video didn't work for me.
Dale Parker: (14:02) Dale Parker Cambridge College Springfield MA
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:02) Did you cut and paste into the browser?
Jean Lim: (14:02) worked for me
Molly Flanagan: (14:02) me too
Nancy Calsolaro Smulsky - Excelsior College: (14:02) Yes, worked for me.
Lucy MacDonald: (14:02) worked for me Lucy
Brenda Kerr, MTSU: (14:02) It worked for me, too.
Lynette Sorenson: (14:02) for me too
Robin Hills: (14:02) worked for me
Dustin and Terry: (14:03) you're welcome steve!
Kyle Songer (Excelsior): (14:03) no sound
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:03) You should be hearing Steve speaking now.
Linda Carr: (14:03) worked for me, too
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:04) If you don't, you should check your audio settings and you may want to sign out and sign in again (should reset)...
Debbie Miller: (14:04) If I miss some of this, where will I be able to access the recorded version?
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:04) We have 120 potential registrants today, so you should do so quickly (as we max out at 100 for this room).
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:05) The archive is made available to participants - usually through the Blog.
Sarena Lee-Schott: (14:06) Does anyone notice that the audio is "skipping"?
Sally Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:06) not for me
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:07) If you have any trouble with audio, try running the "audio wizard" - which takes less than 1 minute - available from the pulldown menu under "Meeting" at the top left
Ann Hamric: (14:07) please post the vocaroo URL - thanks
Dale Parker: (14:07) audio is ok
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:08) We ENCOURAGE exchanging recommendations, resources, amusing self-revelatory comments
Deborah Dessaso: (14:08) Deborah Dessaso has signed in
Lucy MacDonald: (14:09) http://vocaroo.com/i/
Lucy MacDonald: (14:10) Bonnie unable to log in with lucy@lucyonline.com so I am in as a guest.
Dale Parker: (14:13) I always have to sign in as a guest. My password never works
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:13) That't fine Lucy - glad you got in OK... whichever way you did ;-)
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:14) Dale & Lucy... we'll have Dave & Steve/Sally take a look at this... you should be able to sign in (and this is best as we are not letting guests in until after the session starts (unless someone recognizes they are regular/registered participants).
Rob Stephenson: (14:14) Hi, folks! 15 min late and a $ short ;-)
Dale Parker: (14:15) ok great
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:15) AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL for Terry & Dustin agreeing to share their experiences with us now
Lucy MacDonald: (14:16) I'm a Tribble - actually my maiden name for all you Trekkies
Ann Hamric: (14:16) is there a video screen showing presenters? I only see slides.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:16) You can usually identify good instructional technologists by how rapidly they talk!
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:16) Making mistakes is how we all learn!
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:16) We're not using live video of our presenters today.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:17) Lucy - I think the title of today's session is awfully trek-related...Tribble - great!
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:17) REPEAT we're recording this and you'll have access to that full archive and other resources via http://tlt.gs/blog
Deborah Dessaso: (14:18) Your student body resembles many at the University of the District of Columbia (UDC)
Dale Parker: (14:19) Cambridge students are nontraditional also. Working adults
Linda Unger, SPD Online, Stony Brook Univ.: (14:20) So the course you are describing was totally synchronous?
Linda Unger, SPD Online, Stony Brook Univ.: (14:21) Thanks for clarifying that.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:21) When I first heard Terry describe this effort I was impressed with her candor and with the ways in which she and Dustin AND THEIR STUDENTS were so willing to try new activities in this context
Flavio Argueta: (14:21) that's funny!!
Dustin and Terry: (14:22) no problem linda
Lucy MacDonald: (14:23) Philosophy class is a great to go online, because it extends the discussion and honors reflective learning.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:24) Combination of adventuresomeness AND having good support!
Lucy MacDonald: (14:25) Buld a coat hanger that is structurally sound and then the next semester add the scarfs and coats.
Joy Mark: (14:25) can't see slide text
Rob Stephenson: (14:26) no picture
Brenda Kerr, MTSU: (14:26) Can't see it
Ann Hamric: (14:26) cannot see a picture
Linda Unger, SPD Online, Stony Brook Univ.: (14:26) video pod is blank
Cynthia Potteiger: (14:26) didn't see the picture
Pamela Howe: (14:26) didn't see anything
Deborah Dessaso, University of the District of Columbia: (14:26) General education courses in general are perfect starting places for online because students tend to be less intimidated in lower level courses.
Kyle Songer (Excelsior): (14:26) there it is.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:26) Starting small and taking those first steps is always advisable. Teaming up with experienced Instructional Designers/Consultant(s)
Flavio Argueta: (14:26) I like the relationship between both of you. It is apparent.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:26) Sadly, too few have the opportunity to work with a partner or two when they teach in any situation - esp. when beginning to teach in some new ways, using some new options
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:27) Are you talking about a metaphorical "cup of coffee" or a real one?
Beth Dailey: (14:27) Great idea!
Lucy MacDonald: (14:27) I consider myself a life guard. Yes, they are going to be in the cyberpool, but I am not going to let them drown.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:28) video working nicely for me!
Lucy MacDonald: (14:28) ha,ha, ha
Beth Dailey: (14:28) I have invited students to chose from a variety of introduction optinos but they then to gravitate to the text based
Beth Dailey: (14:28) how many of your students used technology
Lucy MacDonald: (14:28) How did he post it?
Lucy MacDonald: (14:28) Anyone using Wimba for audio?
Devon Mordell: (14:29) Great idea to have the students introduce themselves - have heard the idea of the instructor doing so before, but this would be helpful to get to know other students
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:29) Were many of your students using iPhones to produce, publish videos?
Rob Stephenson: (14:29) did you use the Star Trek frame around the videos ?- LOL
Beth Dailey: (14:30) I have used Animoto as an easy way to share personal slides
Beth Dailey: (14:30) used it as an Introduction
Lucy MacDonald: (14:30) I use Skype for office hours.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:30) Gotta love the "keeping with the theme" of this pic!... and beyond.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:31) Put the polll up in case you wanted to share your smart phone status.
Deborah Dessaso, University of the District of Columbia: (14:31) Is there anywhere to tell if the particular form of introduction is age based, e.g. do nontraditional students tend to use text introductions?
Lucy MacDonald: (14:31) I use my iPad or webcam on computer.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:32) Good question Deborah
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:32) @Deborah asked about age correlation with choice of tech for self-intros
Lucy MacDonald: (14:32) I have students attach a photo around a THEME. This Spring we used "Water".
Lucy MacDonald: (14:33) They do after they take the syllabus quiz!!!
Beth Dailey: (14:33) That's interesting Lucy, a theme for the introduction, right?
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:34) Provided they actually read through it... sometimes the questions come based on a cursory reading of the syllabus.
Lucy MacDonald: (14:34) Correct. Themes begin to build a community. The pictures were so great that I had to give prizes!!
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:34) DS: Syllabus important but also need more CONTEXT ...
Dale Parker, Cambridge College, MA: (14:34) Syllabus quiz...hmmmm
Beth Dailey: (14:34) I love this idea Lucy! Thanks
Lucy MacDonald: (14:34) Syllabus quiz includes scenarios!
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:34) Syllabus scavenger hunt...
Linda Unger, SPD Online, Stony Brook Univ.: (14:34) I ask participants to add a Wordle or favorite quote to their text intros. The Wordle/quote must focus on a personal aspect.
Beth Dailey: (14:35) This sounds cool. I have never tried it but I would like to
Pamela Howe: (14:35) What about ADA compliance?
Dustin and Terry: (14:35) This was done with Acrobat Professional
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:35) Education pricing/options for Adobe: http://www.adobe.com/products/
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:35) Good question Pamela
Lucy MacDonald: (14:36) Great new iPad app called "Explain Everything" for audio feedback as well as presenting with laser tool.
Devon Mordell: (14:36) Would require a plain text document of the audio files I imagine, Pamela
Beth Dailey: (14:36) I bet you might still want to do a scavenger hunt or syllabus quiz in addition to the audio comments
Amanda Wilson: (14:36) is adobe reader all that is needed to hear that audio?
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:36) That would be the accessible opton (and should be...) can become a good Syllabus FAQs.
Flavio Argueta: (14:37) what about file size?
Lucy MacDonald: (14:37) ergo, make shorter comments
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:37) Anyone have a recommendation about a good intro resource for someone who wants to BEGIN using "Interactive PDFs"
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:38) For those who know about our TLTG Brief Hybrid Workshops, we recommend e-clips be within that same 1-5 min length.
Lucy MacDonald: (14:39) I just use Journals in Blackboard 9.0 +
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:39) Growing trend? Find institutionally provided LMS inadequate so move to a variety of web-based inexpensive or free apps
Lucy MacDonald: (14:39) Public Journals
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:39) TLTG Brief Hybrid Workshops: http://www.tltgroup.org/bhw.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:40) Lots of free resources for producing, publishing blogs, wikis
Lucy MacDonald: (14:41) I use Kingdomality - what would your career be in the MIDDLE AGES. Helps build a community.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:41) You can see that students respond & interact....is it that they are used to responding in social media (which Bb is less so....)
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:41) Better inter-commenting among student bloggers because of INFORMALITY of the style and structure as opposed to more structured, more formal threaded text discussion
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:42) Are they just used to the social networking?
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:42) ALSO HAD STUDENTS POST THEIR ASSIGNMENT WORK WITHIN THEIR BLOGS
Rob Stephenson: (14:42) I suspect ur studdents were older - teachers and the like - undergraduates are highly motivated by grades and not much else, IMHO
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:42) Do you teach them how to be more academic in the Discussion fora?
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:43) That's very interesting and not so surprizing.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:43) DS: For most humans, discussion boards NOT used outside of academia
Lucy MacDonald: (14:43) I find blog more linear than discussion boards. Now we can also embed pictures in the discussion board.
Linda Unger, SPD Online, Stony Brook Univ.: (14:43) So each student had their own blog in Bb, and all other students had access to everyone's blog?
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:43) There is a place for academic discussions and listservs... that people migh tmove into??? or shall we move beyone?
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:44) beyond?
Deborah Dessaso, University of the District of Columbia: (14:44) Interesting point. Personally, I find discussion boards confusing.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:44) Linda - @Linda - that's the way the Blogs are structured in Bb.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:45) DS: Discussion boards "feel" as if they're OWNED by instructor; blogs "feel" more like they're owned by the students
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:45) You can open Discussion so that students can moderate... but it is still class-focussed rather than individual focussed.
Lucy MacDonald: (14:45) Agreed on sharepoint!!!
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:45) DS: "Our tool" vs. "their tool"
Beth Dailey: (14:46) In the future would you use the blog within Blackboard or would you use a blog platform outside of the LMS?
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:46) What would an "asynchronous student lounge" be like? What would be features you would esp. like to have in it?
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:46) Bb e-portfolios are a bit limited (same "class tool" vs "learner tool"
Beth Dailey: (14:47) :)
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:47) There can sometimes be safety in a class blog... then in a public blog.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:48) Comparison of 3 widely used FREE blog tools: blogger, wordpress, tumblr: http://pulsed.blogspot.com/
Lucy MacDonald: (14:48) Have privacy problems in an external blog.
Beth Dailey: (14:48) thanks, great feedback
Rob Stephenson: (14:48) an outward facing course is less infantilizing
Dorothy Gray: (14:49) Has anyone else used Tumblr as a sort of blogging site?
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:49) TB: 'I wish a Dustin for all of you"
Lucy MacDonald: (14:49) Love wikis. Can make it private to my class. Students can contribute easily in many multimedia ways
Lucy MacDonald: (14:51) video assignments
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:51) What do you want to hear most about?
Eddy Chi: (14:51) facebook
Linda Carr: (14:51) wiki
Jenny Michael: (14:51) more on wiki
Leanne Chun: (14:51) synchronous class
Deborah Dessaso, University of the District of Columbia: (14:51) Facebook
nikki: (14:51) sync class
Debbie Miller: (14:51) wiki
Dorothy Gray: (14:51) wikis
Devon Mordell: (14:51) video assignments
Jean Lim: (14:51) video assignments
Taimi Olsen: (14:51) video assigns and wiki
Rob Stephenson: (14:51) Facebook
Flavio Argueta: (14:51) facebook
Amanda Wilson: (14:51) facebook
Linda Unger, SPD Online, Stony Brook Univ.: (14:51) ssynchronous class
Sarena Lee-Schott 3: (14:51) wiki
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:51) And then we'll continue after 3pm ET for those who have the time
Ann Hamric: (14:51) Wiki
James Frazee: (14:51) synchronous
Beth Dailey: (14:51) I'd love to hear it all, can you come back?
Maggie Barklind: (14:51) wikis
Laura Plotts: (14:51) Facebook
Dale Parker, Cambridge College, MA: (14:51) what is a wiki
Lucy MacDonald: (14:51) Wikis made easy - youtube video great intro
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:52) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:53) a wiki, i.e., a website that allows users to create and collaboratively edit web pages via a web browser.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:53) Wikis are tools for collaborative writing - Google docs are a wiki.
Dale Parker, Cambridge College, MA: (14:54) thanks
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:54) For some people, getting into using Google Docs can be an easy entry to the idea and comfort with wikis
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:54) Most (all?) Wikis allow people to see the history of what has been changed & by who (so you can go back and see changes).
Beth Dailey: (14:54) was the wiki within the LMS? if not what did you use?
Lucy MacDonald: (14:55) I have used wikispaces and PBwiki
Taimi Olsen: (14:55) what goes into a rubric for grading wikis?
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:55) I've found one of the most reassuring ways of introducing people to wikis (of many kinds) is to let them know that changing someone else's text is NOT irreversible!
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:56) DS: "If I were asked you to be engaged, what would that mean [to you]?"
Taimi Olsen: (14:56) interesting idea to ask them about engagement
Lucy MacDonald: (14:56) collectively building a project
Jean Lim: (14:58) interactive syllabus
Linda Unger, SPD Online, Stony Brook Univ.: (14:58) video introduction
Debbie Miller: (14:58) explore wiki via google docs
Sarena Lee-Schott 3: (14:58) use more audio and video
Beth Dailey: (14:59) I want to add audio comments to my syllabus
Brenda Kerr, MTSU: (14:59) Reflective journals on portfolio creation
Debbie Miller: (14:59) and video introduction
Barbara Szyjko, GCSU: (14:59) Using blogs instead of discussion board - if that would get students more active in the discussion
Devon Mordell: (14:59) Prepare a short, targeted tutorial for students on working with video, to make certain that they all have the skills to participate in the course
Rob Stephenson: (14:59) interactive ppts - interesting but not convinced yet
Brenda Kerr, MTSU: (14:59) Wiki for group article summaries
Kyle Songer (Excelsior): (14:59) We use Nanogong.
Beth Dailey: (14:59) I have used Animoto for my introduction, I'd like to try a video introduction
Kyle Songer (Excelsior): (14:59) integrated into Bb 9.1
Robin Hills: (14:59) I finally get what a blog and wiki are and how I can incorporate them into an online course for enhanced student engagement
Dale Parker, Cambridge College, MA: (14:59) I am doing a presentation at faculty meeting and will talk about some of these things and tell them about tlt
Kyle Songer (Excelsior): (15:00) the integration works better in Moodle
Deborah Dessaso, University of the District of Columbia: (15:00) I like the idea of the wiki to get students into writing without fear
Beth Dailey: (15:00) I like the idea of giving students options for their own introductions, voice, video, slides, a quaote.
Flavio Argueta: (15:00) remind students about the smart phone apps available for video recording.
Beth Dailey: (15:00) I love the idea of using a theme for the introduction
Kyle Songer (Excelsior): (15:00) in Bb 9.1 we use a workaround to get it to work.
Linda Carr: (15:00) will use audios linked to emails for faculty development purposes
Kyle Songer (Excelsior): (15:00) We do use Adobe Connect Professional is some courses.
Taimi Olsen: (15:00) wiki nature--doing more of a "practice" with students--will be helpful!
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:00) www.tlt.gs/frlvreg
Kyle Songer (Excelsior): (15:00) in
Devon Mordell: (15:01) I presume the copyright workshops will focus on US Copyright? :-) (I'm Canadian)
Linda Carr: (15:01) want to learn how to create interactive pdf's
Sally Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:01) Please consider becominfg an Individual member. http://tltgroup.
Beth Dailey: (15:01) Thanks for a GREAT! session. I have to go. have a great weekend
Dustin and Terry: (15:01) thank you!
Brenda Kerr, MTSU: (15:02) I got a lot of good ideas from this session. Thank you!
Dustin and Terry: (15:02) live long and prosper
Jenny Michael: (15:02) Thanks much for some useful ideas!
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:02) For those of you who have to leave... have a great weekend and join us next week... and beyond!
Linda Carr: (15:02) Informative session--learned much about various venues discussed--thank you!
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:03) TB: Candor about own inexperience DS: Revealing one's own humanity - limitations!
Pamela Howe: (15:03) thank you
Lucy MacDonald: (15:03) What kind of video assignments did you use?
Lucy MacDonald: (15:04) Have a hard time getting my students together at the same time.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:04) For those of you who can stay.... pose your questions here and raise your hand if you want to speak w/ mic?
Deborah Dessaso, University of the District of Columbia: (15:04) Lots of great ideas!
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:05) TB: Added an optional (strongly suggested) synch session to what was entirely asynch otherwise
Lucy MacDonald: (15:05) I would have to set up 4 classes to get everyone together.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:05) RIGHT! works MUCH BETTER with multiple "presenters" or teachers! ... some of whom can be STUDENTS!
Lucy MacDonald: (15:06) Tx State, San Marcos had 9 students up at the same time!
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:07) I've just begun to find live video effective in professional and personal situations - quality of Internet connectivity, capabilities of smart phones, software/prices for live video getting easier, better cheaper!
Lucy MacDonald: (15:07) We use Adobe Connect for tutoring
Linda Carr: (15:07) there is no sound
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:07) I've got sound
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:08) "Most of the tech worked for almost everyone most of the time"!!!!!!
Dale Parker, Cambridge College, MA: (15:08) I have sound
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:08) @ lInda - Logout & in again... may fix that way if you just lost sound.
Linda Carr: (15:08) it's working now
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:08) Yes, i think it's a great step!
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:08) I think it does... You look great too Theresa!
Dale Parker, Cambridge College, MA: (15:09) You look fine
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:09) (Terry)
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:09) "Talking about going out for a beer" .... that's unuusual?
Sally Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:10) I rather like Blue Moon.
Dustin and Terry: (15:10) agreed :)
Dale Parker, Cambridge College, MA: (15:10) ground rules might have to be established
Lucy MacDonald: (15:10) Some are surprised that you "hear" their chat!
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:10) @Lucy - Multiple sessions - Sometimes that is what you have to do with online asynchronous classes to make synchronous sessions work.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:12) 15-20 min is the max for attention in f2f classes.. so there is no surprize that you would need to shift things up in terms of activity/interaction.
Cynthia Potteiger: (15:12) how did you use facebook?
Lucy MacDonald: (15:12) Established the protocols.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:13) Facebook next? (as per Cynthia?)
Dustin and Terry: (15:13) sure, no problem
Lucy MacDonald: (15:13) Models work well to set the tone.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:13) As you do, perhaps speak to the differences between how each of these are used... and why they are used (differntiated instruction & differentiated interactions)
Lucy MacDonald: (15:13) he,he,he
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:14) No neutral response - first place I wanted to have it.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:15) "Undiscovered Country"
Taimi Olsen: (15:15) I learn...but unexpectedly, creatively
Dale Parker, Cambridge College, MA: (15:15) Cant you establish private groups in FB?
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:15) next frontier: use Drawsomething for adult educational activities!
Taimi Olsen: (15:15) I tried it but my seniors said that they were working on serious posts and getting interrupted by chats
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:16) Private & Secret facebook spaces
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:16) Google+ seems to be emerging as an alternative that some are using more professionally than Facebook but in some similarly structured ways
Lucy MacDonald: (15:17) Children of professors have asked parents to get off their wall.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:17) MAYBE WE SHOULD DO A FRLV SESSION THAT FOCUSES DIRECTLY ON THE WAYS IN WHICH THE BOUNDARIES BETWEEN PUBLIC, PRIVATE, PERSONAL, PROFESSIONAL LIVES ARE CHANGING?
Devon Mordell: (15:18) I'm wondering a bit about scope creep, both for the students and for yourselves/the instructors: having synchronous classes, wikis, blogs, discussion boards, video assignments, facebook posts, plus readings (?)... it seems like a lot more work to do and to assess than a traditional f2f - though they are all great ideas! Maybe back to the idea of just choosing three or four technologies...
Lucy MacDonald: (15:18) I use Skype. Students know when I am online.
Lucy MacDonald: (15:19) YES>
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:19) What did you learn about duration of active synch sessions? we find about an hour is max and having lots of change of pace DURING hour is helpful
Lucy MacDonald: (15:19) Skype with video is still one on one.
Devon Mordell: (15:20) :)
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:20) @ Devon - and how do you choose which are most effective?
Lucy MacDonald: (15:20) Students also don't like to have things so split up.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:20) Can be hard to keep track of everything... for students and instructors
Devon Mordell: (15:21) If the LMS can function like a dashboard, that might help to conceptually keep the different activities together
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:21) Where to start? What are the fewest and most complementary (least overlapping) technologies?
Devon Mordell: (15:22) Good question too, Bonnie!
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:22) LTAs - Low Threshold Applications
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:23) Yes, nice question Bonnie! friendly amendment: "What are a few complementary not-very-overlapping technologies to recommend for a teacher who is beginning to move toward/more online
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:23) "Learning-Centered " Technologies
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:25) 1. For an individual online-inexperienced instructor? 2. For an individual online-inexperienced instructor who is working WITH a colleague - tech or faculty?
Rob Stephenson: (15:25) who wears the collar?
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:25) 1) Start with Video Introductions (making personal connections & creating "real people").
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:25) 2) Interactive Syllabus
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:25) 3) Blogs
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:26) Individual without tech support: audio & interactive PDF
Lucy MacDonald: (15:26) I would try just one thing at a time for a beginning.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:26) Individula with tech support: add video
Lucy MacDonald: (15:26) "shovel ware" !!!
Devon Mordell: (15:26) A lot of online courses are still very content driven...
Lucy MacDonald: (15:27) Web pages do NOT teach
Rob Stephenson: (15:27) rappin'
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:27) DS: "wrap" content effectively...
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:28) @ Lucy - This is the advice I always give... but also, you can have something early (One) and another later in the course (so you don't overwhelm yourself or your students).
Lucy MacDonald: (15:28) I like using Jing.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:28) When I first open something from Ikea, my first (and usually last) reaction is to call Sally and ask her to take over while I walk the dog
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:28) The unfolding of the universe... slowly and strategically unveiled...
Lucy MacDonald: (15:28) I have had the students using Xtranormal
Sally Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:28) It's definitely the right division of labor!
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:28) Yes
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:29) Have and do....
Lucy MacDonald: (15:29) I've put together Ikea furniture in Australia.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:29) @Lucy - "Xtranormal"?
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:30) http://www.xtranormal.com/ - storytelling?
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:30) WARNING!
Lucy MacDonald: (15:30) Xtranormal - choose your characters - type in your text and they say it!
Lucy MacDonald: (15:30) Students are making scenarios for student success.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:31) DS: Are you really open-minded enough to connect with and accept help from someone who is avail tgo help you?
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:31) building their story... storyboard... video comics....
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:31) WHAT PREVENTS PEOPLE FROM TAKING ADVANTAGE OF SUCH RESOURCES?
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:31) Good use.
Lucy MacDonald: (15:32) time and opportunity
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:32) Rob - I see your hand. Did you have a final question - or want to say something before we close?
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:32) (e.g. via mic rather than chat?)
Devon Mordell: (15:32) I disagree! I'm in a similar role to Dustin in Faculty Development, and we're ridiculousy busy! :)
Devon Mordell: (15:32) *ridiculously
Dustin and Terry: (15:32) lucky man
Dustin and Terry: (15:32) :)
Devon Mordell: (15:32) Lucky woman, you mean :)
Dustin and Terry: (15:32) i think it is s cultural thing...
Dustin and Terry: (15:32) ah!
Dustin and Terry: (15:33) sorry devon
Devon Mordell: (15:33) s'ok - it happens all the time
Devon Mordell: (15:33) But there are two of us for one whole faculty
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:33) I think that Instructional Designers can be crazy busy... but it really depends how the College/University is structured (Center for Teaching and Learning... Instructional Technology Centers...)
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:34) It is the Culture and how the culture is grown.
Devon Mordell: (15:34) Agreed - but not everyone is on board
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:34) Devon- you're right... but I shouild say it differently: THERE IS ALWAYS A SUPPORT-SERVICE CRISIS - SHORTAGE AND AT THE SAME TIME THE USAGE OF SUCH RESOURCES IS GROSSLY LOWER THAN WOULD BE HOPED BY MANY
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:34) Hi rob we hear you fine. Thanks for speaking today!
Lucy MacDonald: (15:34) Yea. Rob
Devon Mordell: (15:34) Quite right, Steve
Taimi Olsen: (15:35) Good discussion. Thank you!
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:35) Centers where I have worked have had the Instructional Designers/Consultants very actively used. But it truely depends on the context & culture.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:36) The other main message has to do with the power of teams for curriculum design.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:36) Critical for online course development.
Dustin and Terry: (15:36) thanks bonnie
Lucy MacDonald: (15:36) clapping, clapping
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:36) You are so welcome and thanks for a great session!
Elizabeth: (15:36) Thanks so much!
Devon Mordell: (15:37) Great talk and ideas, thanks!
Lucy MacDonald: (15:37) Web cam without Dave. Congratulations!!!!!
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:37) We've used the webcam a number of times... but extensively, safe and nice.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:37) Much better when we have 2 people - to see your partnership live!
Cynthia Potteiger: (15:37) Great presentation! Thankyou.
Rob Stephenson: (15:37) thank you all
Lucy MacDonald: (15:38) Who knows what is normal?
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:38) Less people in chat.. then with you two and your partnership.
Lucy MacDonald: (15:38) Your video doesn't connect me to the chat.
Sally Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:38) Can you say something about how come you're still here? at 3:30?
Lucy MacDonald: (15:38) Cheers.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:38) Thank you both!
Rob Stephenson: (15:38) bfn
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (13:51) Greetings, Welcome to Friday Live! Our session will start at 2 pm
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (13:52) Guest recording of answers to Fundamental Questions: http://youtu.be/3D1YEJeQ-Es
Gail Feigenbaum: (13:53) I'm back in, but I can't hear anything
Sally Gilbert, TLT Group: (13:54) nice pic
Linda Unger, SPD Online, Stony Brook Univ.: (13:54) Just mentioning to presenters: we are hearing your conversation, and there is no option to send a chat to presenters only.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (13:56) Thanks Linda.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (13:56) We know you can hear all... there is no way to just have presenters talk.
Gail Feigenbaum 2: (13:56) Sally--I can hear now....thanks!
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (13:56) "Building a Sense of Community in an Online Environment: Boldly Going Where You May Not Have Before..."
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (13:57) is our topic for today. We are now beginning our pre-session
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (13:59) http://youtu.be/3D1YEJeQ-Es
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:00) Please feel free to introduce yourself here in chat (name, institution, role, interests)
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:00) PLS USE THIS 2 MINS TO WATCH THE YOUTUBE VIDEO PREPARED BY DUSTIN AVAIL
Linda Unger, SPD Online, Stony Brook Univ.: (14:01) Steve, Could you please repeat instructions for viewing the video?
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:01) DD
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:01) Just click on and or copy the link & paste it into your browser: http://youtu.be/3D1YEJeQ-Es
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:01) We are currnetly listening to the link above.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:02) NO SOUND FROM US NOW - HOPE YOU'RE WATCHING/HEARING THIS YOUTUBE VIDEO
Linda Unger, SPD Online, Stony Brook Univ.: (14:02) Thank you Bonnie. Clicking on the video didn't work for me.
Dale Parker: (14:02) Dale Parker Cambridge College Springfield MA
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:02) Did you cut and paste into the browser?
Jean Lim: (14:02) worked for me
Molly Flanagan: (14:02) me too
Nancy Calsolaro Smulsky - Excelsior College: (14:02) Yes, worked for me.
Lucy MacDonald: (14:02) worked for me Lucy
Brenda Kerr, MTSU: (14:02) It worked for me, too.
Lynette Sorenson: (14:02) for me too
Robin Hills: (14:02) worked for me
Dustin and Terry: (14:03) you're welcome steve!
Kyle Songer (Excelsior): (14:03) no sound
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:03) You should be hearing Steve speaking now.
Linda Carr: (14:03) worked for me, too
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:04) If you don't, you should check your audio settings and you may want to sign out and sign in again (should reset)...
Debbie Miller: (14:04) If I miss some of this, where will I be able to access the recorded version?
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:04) We have 120 potential registrants today, so you should do so quickly (as we max out at 100 for this room).
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:05) The archive is made available to participants - usually through the Blog.
Sarena Lee-Schott: (14:06) Does anyone notice that the audio is "skipping"?
Sally Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:06) not for me
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:07) If you have any trouble with audio, try running the "audio wizard" - which takes less than 1 minute - available from the pulldown menu under "Meeting" at the top left
Ann Hamric: (14:07) please post the vocaroo URL - thanks
Dale Parker: (14:07) audio is ok
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:08) We ENCOURAGE exchanging recommendations, resources, amusing self-revelatory comments
Deborah Dessaso: (14:08) Deborah Dessaso has signed in
Lucy MacDonald: (14:09) http://vocaroo.com/i/
Lucy MacDonald: (14:10) Bonnie unable to log in with lucy@lucyonline.com so I am in as a guest.
Dale Parker: (14:13) I always have to sign in as a guest. My password never works
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:13) That't fine Lucy - glad you got in OK... whichever way you did ;-)
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:14) Dale & Lucy... we'll have Dave & Steve/Sally take a look at this... you should be able to sign in (and this is best as we are not letting guests in until after the session starts (unless someone recognizes they are regular/registered participants).
Rob Stephenson: (14:14) Hi, folks! 15 min late and a $ short ;-)
Dale Parker: (14:15) ok great
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:15) AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL for Terry & Dustin agreeing to share their experiences with us now
Lucy MacDonald: (14:16) I'm a Tribble - actually my maiden name for all you Trekkies
Ann Hamric: (14:16) is there a video screen showing presenters? I only see slides.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:16) You can usually identify good instructional technologists by how rapidly they talk!
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:16) Making mistakes is how we all learn!
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:16) We're not using live video of our presenters today.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:17) Lucy - I think the title of today's session is awfully trek-related...Tribble - great!
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:17) REPEAT we're recording this and you'll have access to that full archive and other resources via http://tlt.gs/blog
Deborah Dessaso: (14:18) Your student body resembles many at the University of the District of Columbia (UDC)
Dale Parker: (14:19) Cambridge students are nontraditional also. Working adults
Linda Unger, SPD Online, Stony Brook Univ.: (14:20) So the course you are describing was totally synchronous?
Linda Unger, SPD Online, Stony Brook Univ.: (14:21) Thanks for clarifying that.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:21) When I first heard Terry describe this effort I was impressed with her candor and with the ways in which she and Dustin AND THEIR STUDENTS were so willing to try new activities in this context
Flavio Argueta: (14:21) that's funny!!
Dustin and Terry: (14:22) no problem linda
Lucy MacDonald: (14:23) Philosophy class is a great to go online, because it extends the discussion and honors reflective learning.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:24) Combination of adventuresomeness AND having good support!
Lucy MacDonald: (14:25) Buld a coat hanger that is structurally sound and then the next semester add the scarfs and coats.
Joy Mark: (14:25) can't see slide text
Rob Stephenson: (14:26) no picture
Brenda Kerr, MTSU: (14:26) Can't see it
Ann Hamric: (14:26) cannot see a picture
Linda Unger, SPD Online, Stony Brook Univ.: (14:26) video pod is blank
Cynthia Potteiger: (14:26) didn't see the picture
Pamela Howe: (14:26) didn't see anything
Deborah Dessaso, University of the District of Columbia: (14:26) General education courses in general are perfect starting places for online because students tend to be less intimidated in lower level courses.
Kyle Songer (Excelsior): (14:26) there it is.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:26) Starting small and taking those first steps is always advisable. Teaming up with experienced Instructional Designers/Consultant(s)
Flavio Argueta: (14:26) I like the relationship between both of you. It is apparent.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:26) Sadly, too few have the opportunity to work with a partner or two when they teach in any situation - esp. when beginning to teach in some new ways, using some new options
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:27) Are you talking about a metaphorical "cup of coffee" or a real one?
Beth Dailey: (14:27) Great idea!
Lucy MacDonald: (14:27) I consider myself a life guard. Yes, they are going to be in the cyberpool, but I am not going to let them drown.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:28) video working nicely for me!
Lucy MacDonald: (14:28) ha,ha, ha
Beth Dailey: (14:28) I have invited students to chose from a variety of introduction optinos but they then to gravitate to the text based
Beth Dailey: (14:28) how many of your students used technology
Lucy MacDonald: (14:28) How did he post it?
Lucy MacDonald: (14:28) Anyone using Wimba for audio?
Devon Mordell: (14:29) Great idea to have the students introduce themselves - have heard the idea of the instructor doing so before, but this would be helpful to get to know other students
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:29) Were many of your students using iPhones to produce, publish videos?
Rob Stephenson: (14:29) did you use the Star Trek frame around the videos ?- LOL
Beth Dailey: (14:30) I have used Animoto as an easy way to share personal slides
Beth Dailey: (14:30) used it as an Introduction
Lucy MacDonald: (14:30) I use Skype for office hours.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:30) Gotta love the "keeping with the theme" of this pic!... and beyond.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:31) Put the polll up in case you wanted to share your smart phone status.
Deborah Dessaso, University of the District of Columbia: (14:31) Is there anywhere to tell if the particular form of introduction is age based, e.g. do nontraditional students tend to use text introductions?
Lucy MacDonald: (14:31) I use my iPad or webcam on computer.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:32) Good question Deborah
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:32) @Deborah asked about age correlation with choice of tech for self-intros
Lucy MacDonald: (14:32) I have students attach a photo around a THEME. This Spring we used "Water".
Lucy MacDonald: (14:33) They do after they take the syllabus quiz!!!
Beth Dailey: (14:33) That's interesting Lucy, a theme for the introduction, right?
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:34) Provided they actually read through it... sometimes the questions come based on a cursory reading of the syllabus.
Lucy MacDonald: (14:34) Correct. Themes begin to build a community. The pictures were so great that I had to give prizes!!
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:34) DS: Syllabus important but also need more CONTEXT ...
Dale Parker, Cambridge College, MA: (14:34) Syllabus quiz...hmmmm
Beth Dailey: (14:34) I love this idea Lucy! Thanks
Lucy MacDonald: (14:34) Syllabus quiz includes scenarios!
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:34) Syllabus scavenger hunt...
Linda Unger, SPD Online, Stony Brook Univ.: (14:34) I ask participants to add a Wordle or favorite quote to their text intros. The Wordle/quote must focus on a personal aspect.
Beth Dailey: (14:35) This sounds cool. I have never tried it but I would like to
Pamela Howe: (14:35) What about ADA compliance?
Dustin and Terry: (14:35) This was done with Acrobat Professional
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:35) Education pricing/options for Adobe: http://www.adobe.com/products/
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:35) Good question Pamela
Lucy MacDonald: (14:36) Great new iPad app called "Explain Everything" for audio feedback as well as presenting with laser tool.
Devon Mordell: (14:36) Would require a plain text document of the audio files I imagine, Pamela
Beth Dailey: (14:36) I bet you might still want to do a scavenger hunt or syllabus quiz in addition to the audio comments
Amanda Wilson: (14:36) is adobe reader all that is needed to hear that audio?
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:36) That would be the accessible opton (and should be...) can become a good Syllabus FAQs.
Flavio Argueta: (14:37) what about file size?
Lucy MacDonald: (14:37) ergo, make shorter comments
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:37) Anyone have a recommendation about a good intro resource for someone who wants to BEGIN using "Interactive PDFs"
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:38) For those who know about our TLTG Brief Hybrid Workshops, we recommend e-clips be within that same 1-5 min length.
Lucy MacDonald: (14:39) I just use Journals in Blackboard 9.0 +
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:39) Growing trend? Find institutionally provided LMS inadequate so move to a variety of web-based inexpensive or free apps
Lucy MacDonald: (14:39) Public Journals
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:39) TLTG Brief Hybrid Workshops: http://www.tltgroup.org/bhw.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:40) Lots of free resources for producing, publishing blogs, wikis
Lucy MacDonald: (14:41) I use Kingdomality - what would your career be in the MIDDLE AGES. Helps build a community.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:41) You can see that students respond & interact....is it that they are used to responding in social media (which Bb is less so....)
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:41) Better inter-commenting among student bloggers because of INFORMALITY of the style and structure as opposed to more structured, more formal threaded text discussion
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:42) Are they just used to the social networking?
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:42) ALSO HAD STUDENTS POST THEIR ASSIGNMENT WORK WITHIN THEIR BLOGS
Rob Stephenson: (14:42) I suspect ur studdents were older - teachers and the like - undergraduates are highly motivated by grades and not much else, IMHO
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:42) Do you teach them how to be more academic in the Discussion fora?
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:43) That's very interesting and not so surprizing.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:43) DS: For most humans, discussion boards NOT used outside of academia
Lucy MacDonald: (14:43) I find blog more linear than discussion boards. Now we can also embed pictures in the discussion board.
Linda Unger, SPD Online, Stony Brook Univ.: (14:43) So each student had their own blog in Bb, and all other students had access to everyone's blog?
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:43) There is a place for academic discussions and listservs... that people migh tmove into??? or shall we move beyone?
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:44) beyond?
Deborah Dessaso, University of the District of Columbia: (14:44) Interesting point. Personally, I find discussion boards confusing.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:44) Linda - @Linda - that's the way the Blogs are structured in Bb.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:45) DS: Discussion boards "feel" as if they're OWNED by instructor; blogs "feel" more like they're owned by the students
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:45) You can open Discussion so that students can moderate... but it is still class-focussed rather than individual focussed.
Lucy MacDonald: (14:45) Agreed on sharepoint!!!
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:45) DS: "Our tool" vs. "their tool"
Beth Dailey: (14:46) In the future would you use the blog within Blackboard or would you use a blog platform outside of the LMS?
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:46) What would an "asynchronous student lounge" be like? What would be features you would esp. like to have in it?
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:46) Bb e-portfolios are a bit limited (same "class tool" vs "learner tool"
Beth Dailey: (14:47) :)
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:47) There can sometimes be safety in a class blog... then in a public blog.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:48) Comparison of 3 widely used FREE blog tools: blogger, wordpress, tumblr: http://pulsed.blogspot.com/
Lucy MacDonald: (14:48) Have privacy problems in an external blog.
Beth Dailey: (14:48) thanks, great feedback
Rob Stephenson: (14:48) an outward facing course is less infantilizing
Dorothy Gray: (14:49) Has anyone else used Tumblr as a sort of blogging site?
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:49) TB: 'I wish a Dustin for all of you"
Lucy MacDonald: (14:49) Love wikis. Can make it private to my class. Students can contribute easily in many multimedia ways
Lucy MacDonald: (14:51) video assignments
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:51) What do you want to hear most about?
Eddy Chi: (14:51) facebook
Linda Carr: (14:51) wiki
Jenny Michael: (14:51) more on wiki
Leanne Chun: (14:51) synchronous class
Deborah Dessaso, University of the District of Columbia: (14:51) Facebook
nikki: (14:51) sync class
Debbie Miller: (14:51) wiki
Dorothy Gray: (14:51) wikis
Devon Mordell: (14:51) video assignments
Jean Lim: (14:51) video assignments
Taimi Olsen: (14:51) video assigns and wiki
Rob Stephenson: (14:51) Facebook
Flavio Argueta: (14:51) facebook
Amanda Wilson: (14:51) facebook
Linda Unger, SPD Online, Stony Brook Univ.: (14:51) ssynchronous class
Sarena Lee-Schott 3: (14:51) wiki
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:51) And then we'll continue after 3pm ET for those who have the time
Ann Hamric: (14:51) Wiki
James Frazee: (14:51) synchronous
Beth Dailey: (14:51) I'd love to hear it all, can you come back?
Maggie Barklind: (14:51) wikis
Laura Plotts: (14:51) Facebook
Dale Parker, Cambridge College, MA: (14:51) what is a wiki
Lucy MacDonald: (14:51) Wikis made easy - youtube video great intro
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:52) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:53) a wiki, i.e., a website that allows users to create and collaboratively edit web pages via a web browser.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:53) Wikis are tools for collaborative writing - Google docs are a wiki.
Dale Parker, Cambridge College, MA: (14:54) thanks
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:54) For some people, getting into using Google Docs can be an easy entry to the idea and comfort with wikis
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (14:54) Most (all?) Wikis allow people to see the history of what has been changed & by who (so you can go back and see changes).
Beth Dailey: (14:54) was the wiki within the LMS? if not what did you use?
Lucy MacDonald: (14:55) I have used wikispaces and PBwiki
Taimi Olsen: (14:55) what goes into a rubric for grading wikis?
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:55) I've found one of the most reassuring ways of introducing people to wikis (of many kinds) is to let them know that changing someone else's text is NOT irreversible!
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:56) DS: "If I were asked you to be engaged, what would that mean [to you]?"
Taimi Olsen: (14:56) interesting idea to ask them about engagement
Lucy MacDonald: (14:56) collectively building a project
Jean Lim: (14:58) interactive syllabus
Linda Unger, SPD Online, Stony Brook Univ.: (14:58) video introduction
Debbie Miller: (14:58) explore wiki via google docs
Sarena Lee-Schott 3: (14:58) use more audio and video
Beth Dailey: (14:59) I want to add audio comments to my syllabus
Brenda Kerr, MTSU: (14:59) Reflective journals on portfolio creation
Debbie Miller: (14:59) and video introduction
Barbara Szyjko, GCSU: (14:59) Using blogs instead of discussion board - if that would get students more active in the discussion
Devon Mordell: (14:59) Prepare a short, targeted tutorial for students on working with video, to make certain that they all have the skills to participate in the course
Rob Stephenson: (14:59) interactive ppts - interesting but not convinced yet
Brenda Kerr, MTSU: (14:59) Wiki for group article summaries
Kyle Songer (Excelsior): (14:59) We use Nanogong.
Beth Dailey: (14:59) I have used Animoto for my introduction, I'd like to try a video introduction
Kyle Songer (Excelsior): (14:59) integrated into Bb 9.1
Robin Hills: (14:59) I finally get what a blog and wiki are and how I can incorporate them into an online course for enhanced student engagement
Dale Parker, Cambridge College, MA: (14:59) I am doing a presentation at faculty meeting and will talk about some of these things and tell them about tlt
Kyle Songer (Excelsior): (15:00) the integration works better in Moodle
Deborah Dessaso, University of the District of Columbia: (15:00) I like the idea of the wiki to get students into writing without fear
Beth Dailey: (15:00) I like the idea of giving students options for their own introductions, voice, video, slides, a quaote.
Flavio Argueta: (15:00) remind students about the smart phone apps available for video recording.
Beth Dailey: (15:00) I love the idea of using a theme for the introduction
Kyle Songer (Excelsior): (15:00) in Bb 9.1 we use a workaround to get it to work.
Linda Carr: (15:00) will use audios linked to emails for faculty development purposes
Kyle Songer (Excelsior): (15:00) We do use Adobe Connect Professional is some courses.
Taimi Olsen: (15:00) wiki nature--doing more of a "practice" with students--will be helpful!
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:00) www.tlt.gs/frlvreg
Kyle Songer (Excelsior): (15:00) in
Devon Mordell: (15:01) I presume the copyright workshops will focus on US Copyright? :-) (I'm Canadian)
Linda Carr: (15:01) want to learn how to create interactive pdf's
Sally Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:01) Please consider becominfg an Individual member. http://tltgroup.
Beth Dailey: (15:01) Thanks for a GREAT! session. I have to go. have a great weekend
Dustin and Terry: (15:01) thank you!
Brenda Kerr, MTSU: (15:02) I got a lot of good ideas from this session. Thank you!
Dustin and Terry: (15:02) live long and prosper
Jenny Michael: (15:02) Thanks much for some useful ideas!
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:02) For those of you who have to leave... have a great weekend and join us next week... and beyond!
Linda Carr: (15:02) Informative session--learned much about various venues discussed--thank you!
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:03) TB: Candor about own inexperience DS: Revealing one's own humanity - limitations!
Pamela Howe: (15:03) thank you
Lucy MacDonald: (15:03) What kind of video assignments did you use?
Lucy MacDonald: (15:04) Have a hard time getting my students together at the same time.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:04) For those of you who can stay.... pose your questions here and raise your hand if you want to speak w/ mic?
Deborah Dessaso, University of the District of Columbia: (15:04) Lots of great ideas!
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:05) TB: Added an optional (strongly suggested) synch session to what was entirely asynch otherwise
Lucy MacDonald: (15:05) I would have to set up 4 classes to get everyone together.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:05) RIGHT! works MUCH BETTER with multiple "presenters" or teachers! ... some of whom can be STUDENTS!
Lucy MacDonald: (15:06) Tx State, San Marcos had 9 students up at the same time!
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:07) I've just begun to find live video effective in professional and personal situations - quality of Internet connectivity, capabilities of smart phones, software/prices for live video getting easier, better cheaper!
Lucy MacDonald: (15:07) We use Adobe Connect for tutoring
Linda Carr: (15:07) there is no sound
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:07) I've got sound
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:08) "Most of the tech worked for almost everyone most of the time"!!!!!!
Dale Parker, Cambridge College, MA: (15:08) I have sound
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:08) @ lInda - Logout & in again... may fix that way if you just lost sound.
Linda Carr: (15:08) it's working now
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:08) Yes, i think it's a great step!
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:08) I think it does... You look great too Theresa!
Dale Parker, Cambridge College, MA: (15:09) You look fine
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:09) (Terry)
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:09) "Talking about going out for a beer" .... that's unuusual?
Sally Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:10) I rather like Blue Moon.
Dustin and Terry: (15:10) agreed :)
Dale Parker, Cambridge College, MA: (15:10) ground rules might have to be established
Lucy MacDonald: (15:10) Some are surprised that you "hear" their chat!
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:10) @Lucy - Multiple sessions - Sometimes that is what you have to do with online asynchronous classes to make synchronous sessions work.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:12) 15-20 min is the max for attention in f2f classes.. so there is no surprize that you would need to shift things up in terms of activity/interaction.
Cynthia Potteiger: (15:12) how did you use facebook?
Lucy MacDonald: (15:12) Established the protocols.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:13) Facebook next? (as per Cynthia?)
Dustin and Terry: (15:13) sure, no problem
Lucy MacDonald: (15:13) Models work well to set the tone.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:13) As you do, perhaps speak to the differences between how each of these are used... and why they are used (differntiated instruction & differentiated interactions)
Lucy MacDonald: (15:13) he,he,he
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:14) No neutral response - first place I wanted to have it.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:15) "Undiscovered Country"
Taimi Olsen: (15:15) I learn...but unexpectedly, creatively
Dale Parker, Cambridge College, MA: (15:15) Cant you establish private groups in FB?
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:15) next frontier: use Drawsomething for adult educational activities!
Taimi Olsen: (15:15) I tried it but my seniors said that they were working on serious posts and getting interrupted by chats
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:16) Private & Secret facebook spaces
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:16) Google+ seems to be emerging as an alternative that some are using more professionally than Facebook but in some similarly structured ways
Lucy MacDonald: (15:17) Children of professors have asked parents to get off their wall.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:17) MAYBE WE SHOULD DO A FRLV SESSION THAT FOCUSES DIRECTLY ON THE WAYS IN WHICH THE BOUNDARIES BETWEEN PUBLIC, PRIVATE, PERSONAL, PROFESSIONAL LIVES ARE CHANGING?
Devon Mordell: (15:18) I'm wondering a bit about scope creep, both for the students and for yourselves/the instructors: having synchronous classes, wikis, blogs, discussion boards, video assignments, facebook posts, plus readings (?)... it seems like a lot more work to do and to assess than a traditional f2f - though they are all great ideas! Maybe back to the idea of just choosing three or four technologies...
Lucy MacDonald: (15:18) I use Skype. Students know when I am online.
Lucy MacDonald: (15:19) YES>
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:19) What did you learn about duration of active synch sessions? we find about an hour is max and having lots of change of pace DURING hour is helpful
Lucy MacDonald: (15:19) Skype with video is still one on one.
Devon Mordell: (15:20) :)
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:20) @ Devon - and how do you choose which are most effective?
Lucy MacDonald: (15:20) Students also don't like to have things so split up.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:20) Can be hard to keep track of everything... for students and instructors
Devon Mordell: (15:21) If the LMS can function like a dashboard, that might help to conceptually keep the different activities together
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:21) Where to start? What are the fewest and most complementary (least overlapping) technologies?
Devon Mordell: (15:22) Good question too, Bonnie!
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:22) LTAs - Low Threshold Applications
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:23) Yes, nice question Bonnie! friendly amendment: "What are a few complementary not-very-overlapping technologies to recommend for a teacher who is beginning to move toward/more online
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:23) "Learning-Centered " Technologies
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:25) 1. For an individual online-inexperienced instructor? 2. For an individual online-inexperienced instructor who is working WITH a colleague - tech or faculty?
Rob Stephenson: (15:25) who wears the collar?
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:25) 1) Start with Video Introductions (making personal connections & creating "real people").
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:25) 2) Interactive Syllabus
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:25) 3) Blogs
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:26) Individual without tech support: audio & interactive PDF
Lucy MacDonald: (15:26) I would try just one thing at a time for a beginning.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:26) Individula with tech support: add video
Lucy MacDonald: (15:26) "shovel ware" !!!
Devon Mordell: (15:26) A lot of online courses are still very content driven...
Lucy MacDonald: (15:27) Web pages do NOT teach
Rob Stephenson: (15:27) rappin'
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:27) DS: "wrap" content effectively...
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:28) @ Lucy - This is the advice I always give... but also, you can have something early (One) and another later in the course (so you don't overwhelm yourself or your students).
Lucy MacDonald: (15:28) I like using Jing.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:28) When I first open something from Ikea, my first (and usually last) reaction is to call Sally and ask her to take over while I walk the dog
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:28) The unfolding of the universe... slowly and strategically unveiled...
Lucy MacDonald: (15:28) I have had the students using Xtranormal
Sally Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:28) It's definitely the right division of labor!
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:28) Yes
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:29) Have and do....
Lucy MacDonald: (15:29) I've put together Ikea furniture in Australia.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:29) @Lucy - "Xtranormal"?
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:30) http://www.xtranormal.com/ - storytelling?
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:30) WARNING!
Lucy MacDonald: (15:30) Xtranormal - choose your characters - type in your text and they say it!
Lucy MacDonald: (15:30) Students are making scenarios for student success.
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:31) DS: Are you really open-minded enough to connect with and accept help from someone who is avail tgo help you?
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:31) building their story... storyboard... video comics....
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:31) WHAT PREVENTS PEOPLE FROM TAKING ADVANTAGE OF SUCH RESOURCES?
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:31) Good use.
Lucy MacDonald: (15:32) time and opportunity
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:32) Rob - I see your hand. Did you have a final question - or want to say something before we close?
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:32) (e.g. via mic rather than chat?)
Devon Mordell: (15:32) I disagree! I'm in a similar role to Dustin in Faculty Development, and we're ridiculousy busy! :)
Devon Mordell: (15:32) *ridiculously
Dustin and Terry: (15:32) lucky man
Dustin and Terry: (15:32) :)
Devon Mordell: (15:32) Lucky woman, you mean :)
Dustin and Terry: (15:32) i think it is s cultural thing...
Dustin and Terry: (15:32) ah!
Dustin and Terry: (15:33) sorry devon
Devon Mordell: (15:33) s'ok - it happens all the time
Devon Mordell: (15:33) But there are two of us for one whole faculty
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:33) I think that Instructional Designers can be crazy busy... but it really depends how the College/University is structured (Center for Teaching and Learning... Instructional Technology Centers...)
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:34) It is the Culture and how the culture is grown.
Devon Mordell: (15:34) Agreed - but not everyone is on board
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:34) Devon- you're right... but I shouild say it differently: THERE IS ALWAYS A SUPPORT-SERVICE CRISIS - SHORTAGE AND AT THE SAME TIME THE USAGE OF SUCH RESOURCES IS GROSSLY LOWER THAN WOULD BE HOPED BY MANY
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:34) Hi rob we hear you fine. Thanks for speaking today!
Lucy MacDonald: (15:34) Yea. Rob
Devon Mordell: (15:34) Quite right, Steve
Taimi Olsen: (15:35) Good discussion. Thank you!
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:35) Centers where I have worked have had the Instructional Designers/Consultants very actively used. But it truely depends on the context & culture.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:36) The other main message has to do with the power of teams for curriculum design.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:36) Critical for online course development.
Dustin and Terry: (15:36) thanks bonnie
Lucy MacDonald: (15:36) clapping, clapping
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:36) You are so welcome and thanks for a great session!
Elizabeth: (15:36) Thanks so much!
Devon Mordell: (15:37) Great talk and ideas, thanks!
Lucy MacDonald: (15:37) Web cam without Dave. Congratulations!!!!!
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:37) We've used the webcam a number of times... but extensively, safe and nice.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:37) Much better when we have 2 people - to see your partnership live!
Cynthia Potteiger: (15:37) Great presentation! Thankyou.
Rob Stephenson: (15:37) thank you all
Lucy MacDonald: (15:38) Who knows what is normal?
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:38) Less people in chat.. then with you two and your partnership.
Lucy MacDonald: (15:38) Your video doesn't connect me to the chat.
Sally Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:38) Can you say something about how come you're still here? at 3:30?
Lucy MacDonald: (15:38) Cheers.
Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group 2: (15:38) Thank you both!
Rob Stephenson: (15:38) bfn
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