Social Networking continued...More recommended apps, an Aplia demo, and discussion about blog and bookmarking services. With special focus on what first thing a faculty member could do to begin with social networking.
Text Chat Transcript - including links - Below
Text Chat Transcript
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David
McCurry, TLT Group: Welcome to Friday Live!
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David
McCurry, TLT Group: OK, I will open with a brief orientation.
Arta
Szathmary: Hello, I made it in!
David
McCurry, TLT Group: Very brief.
Laura
Robinson: Hello! I had to enter as a
"Guest" again: for some reason
I haven't been able to enter using my user name and password.
Sally Gilbert,
TLT Group: Hey there Arta!
suehellman:
Hi from Melbourne!
Sally
Gilbert, TLT Group: Laura- Have you used
your email as BOTH login and password?
Charles
Ansorge, University of Nebraska, Lincoln: Loud and clear.
Herb: loud
and clear, greetings.
Ilene
Frank: Sounds ok!
Sally
Gilbert, TLT Group: Hi Sue- so glad to have you!
Laura
Robinson: Yes, I have! This session and
the last, too.
Ann G
Pearlman: Sound and Image are good.
Beth
Dailey: My e-mail did not work as user name and password
Beth Dailey:
I used my TLT login and that was accepted
Sally
Gilbert, TLT Group: Beth- we have a problem, I think. we'll look into it. You did use the email where you rec'd your
confirmation, rigyht?
Gerry
McKiernan: Iowa State University ; Interested in Google + | Pinterest
Beth
Dailey: Ho everyone, I'm in Wausau, WI. I'm a faculty Training Specialist with
EDMC
Beth
Dailey: right Sally
Jose
Lepervanche: Ok, I am here
suehellman:
@Sally -- I always havve the same issue and have to sign in as a guest.
Gerry
McKiernan: Yes
Ilene
Frank: Yes, Steve!
suehellman:
yes
Jose
Lepervanche: yes
Mark
Schlesinger: Yes
Ann G
Pearlman: yes
Sally
Gilbert, TLT Group: So glad to see you all here at such short notice!
Herb: yes
alittle low on volume
Irina
Ivliyeva, Missouti S&T: Good afternoon!
Arta
Szathmary: I am current president of PA4C.
Community college Computer Consortium of Pennsylvania, teaching 2 online
classes, retired from Bucks County Community College.. I call it rewirement,
not retirement.
Charles
Ansorge, University of Nebraska, Lincoln: yes
Amanda
Wilson: no
Gerry
McKiernan: Yes
Beth
Rogers: yes
Ann G
Pearlman: No
Kelly
Gonzalez: yes
Mark
Schlesinger: NO
Eric Werth:
Yes.
Beth
Dailey: yes
Emily
Alschbach, Stanford GSB Library: yes
Jill Turner:
no
Ilene
Frank: yes
Taimi
Olsen: no
suehellman:
no - missed it
Glenn
Everett: yes
Jake
Glover: no
Zoe: no
Irina
Ivliyeva, Missouti S&T: No, I had abus trip..
Herb: yes
Rebecca,
tltg: no
Arta
Szathmary: no, but listened
Jose
Lepervanche: no, I was in Miami with a newborn grandson. :-)
Michelle
Emelle: watched it yesterday
Sally
Gilbert, TLT Group: Hi Jake! glad to
have you back!
Rebecca,
tltg: congrats jose!
Laura
Robinson: yes
Jose
Lepervanche: My first grandson last friday!!!
Irina
Ivliyeva, Missouti S&T: Congrats!
Sally
Gilbert, TLT Group: wow!
Ann G
Pearlman: congrats
Jose
Lepervanche: A good excuse...
Jose
Lepervanche: Thanks,
Gerry
McKiernan: Yes !!!
Arta
Szathmary: Congrats.
Beth
Dailey: That is so cool Jose!
Beth Dailey:
Yes, do share :)
David
McCurry, TLT Group: emaill it. mccurry@tltgroup.org
Gerry
McKiernan: WoW !!!
Arta
Szathmary: We have 6 and 3/4.
Arta
Szathmary: yes
Sally
Gilbert, TLT Group: I think we need a grandchild number poll!
Gerry
McKiernan: My kind of town ...
Rebecca,
tltg: expectant grandparent?
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Jose
Lepervanche: Sorry, lost connection.
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Ilene
Frank: Yep! I'm in a tizzy about what we
think we're doing in higher ed, so I'm not sure about what we want to keep and
what we don't want to lose. ;)
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Mark
Schlesinger: You're connected.
Herb: not
disconnected
Jose
Lepervanche: I am here
Mark
Schlesinger: Close
Glenn
Everett: First name that comes to mind is Bryan Alexander
Sally
Gilbert, TLT Group: how about steve gilbert?
Arta
Szathmary: Committee members in congress on Educational Committees
Irina
Ivliyeva, Missouti S&T 2: Upper administrators
Ann G
Pearlman: Alex Pickett SUNY Learning Network
Arta
Szathmary: Holly Jobe President of ISTE
Arta
Szathmary: Hal Abelson of MIT
Steve
Gilbert, TLT Group: Jon Sener
Herb: Amber
MacArthur and or Danah Boyd
Rebecca,
tltg: Cable Green
Irina
Ivliyeva, Missouti S&T 2: I would say - The folks at IT and Education
technology perhaps ... KC Green?
Charles
Ansorge, University of Nebraska, Lincoln: Someone associated with Merlot.
Charles
Ansorge, University of Nebraska, Lincoln: yes
Charles
Ansorge, University of Nebraska, Lincoln: Ladership
Ann G
Pearlman: Someone from the Media Ecology Association..I know someone has done a
facebook study
Arta
Szathmary: Jane Hart
Glenn
Everett: Julie Evans of Project Tomorrow
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Beth
Dailey: Judy Brown, Mobile Learning
Strategic Analyst, http://www.judybrown.com/
Maida
Tilchen: I cannot use Evernote on my iPad2 - all I can find is a really clunky
way to save a note. Does anyone know how to do this?
Steve
Gilbert, TLT Group: Sally & I are using it often on our iPad 2s Maida
Jose
Lepervanche: Mine is working fine in iPad2
Cynthia
Russell: I've shared EN folders with others - haven't done the
"public" share - but person to others works well
Charles
Ansorge, University of Nebraska, Lincoln: And it's FREE.
Maida
Tilchen: Can someone give me a link to a good instruction on using it on iPad2?
Because my Evernote app doesn't provide an easy way to save something to
Evernote
Taimi
Olsen: I like "good notes" better.
I don't have my ipad 2 with me but I think there are other apps. Anyone have an opinion? Not sure about the public aspect. How is it done?
Christina
Seeger: I am also a Librarian (academic -- pharmacy) and use Evernote. I will
try a public folder this week, as well
Taimi
Olsen: Good notes just for the "look" and the highlighting, notes
ability
Steve
Gilbert, TLT Group: Here's Buffy Hamilton's blog post about using Evernote with
students http://blog.evernote.com/2011/01/05/how-my-students-started-using-evernote-education-series/
Jose
Lepervanche: I have been using Google Docs for sharing and collaboration for
years.
Beth Dailey:
I love that idea
Ilene
Frank: Oh yeah - there's that nice link to Buffy Hamilton's explanation of how
she uses Evernote to share info.
GeorgeBrett:
However, if you do have a topic that will have a lot of related info, a topic /
label does help. Tags are useful too.
GeorgeBrett:
One problem I had with Evernote (Hi
Steve) was exporting to other applications
Christina
Seeger: My colleagues won't use GoogleDocs because of the mix between personal
and professional
Arta
Szathmary: We are using google sites for eportfolio review in one of my
classes.
GeorgeBrett:
Thanks, good to be here
Ilene
Frank: George , I agree - I wish there were a simply way to export a lot of
stuff from Evernote.
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GeorgeBrett:
With respect to using Blogs in classroom I'd recommend the Unv of Mary
Washigton in Frederickburg, VA doing WordPress MultiUser
Sally
Gilbert, TLT Group: @ Christina - despite the fact that you can limit access to
a doc?
Jose
Lepervanche: See my Information Overload cartoon http://josetoons.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/2008_11_overload.jpg
Ilene
Frank: Gerry, what about your "not Just Facebook" presentation from a
while back? Think that would be helpful for this group?
Sally
Gilbert, TLT Group: Great Jose!
Beth
Dailey: Jose, I love your overload cartoon.
GeorgeBrett:
UMW assigns a new student their own "Blog" then using RSS they share
posts as papers with Classmates in a course
GeorgeBrett:
I see purple crosshatch too
Arta
Szathmary: Jose, I love
Jose
Lepervanche: haha, here is my Surviving Information Overload one. http://josetoons.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/2011_04_infooverload2.jpg
GeorgeBrett:
Ditto on liking Jose's cartoon
Cynthia
Russell: Did a quick note to share on Evernote - I chose the copy URL approach
- you can also do it in other ways - but here's the URL to the EN that I
shared: http://www.evernote.com/shard/s3/sh/694d77a2-0897-40f0-8d86-048966370ebe/c05dc2616afad03d8495f1dd2f3d3cdf
Steve
Gilbert, TLT Group: anyone still NOT seeing the Aplia screenshot from Chuck?
Steve
Gilbert, TLT Group: Chuck is talking about grad level statistics courses -
which he has taught many times both F2f and fully online
Beth
Dailey: Yikes Jose, the last cartoon depicts survival?
Steve
Gilbert, TLT Group: Last week's session was really good, fun, useful! see transcript & archive via http://tlt-swg.blogspot.com/2012/03/keeping-up-social-networking-and-higher.html
Jose
Lepervanche: Too many options for our students. I try to keep them inside the
LMS Blackboard
Beth
Dailey: Hi Cynthia, the link didn;t work for me
Arta
Szathmary: Kendall Martin gave a wonderful presentation on e-textbooks and
standardization.
Jose
Lepervanche: The issue is to inegrate them to our current learning platforms
Jose
Lepervanche: integrate
Arta
Szathmary: We, as faculty, need to make decisions on what we want
Cynthia
Russell: Hmmmm ... it takes it 3 seconds or so to load - might want to try
again. But, in case you want to read more about the process without accessing
the page I'm trying to share, you can look at http://blog.evernote.com/2011/12/20/evernote-for-ios-update-shared-notebooks-offline-notebook-improvements-and-more/
Gerry
McKiernan: Yes > See my _DT > Digital Textbooks_ blog http://digital-textbooks.blogspot.com/
Laura
Robinson: Cynthia--it worked for me with no problem.
GeorgeBrett:
AtHas anyone here ever used Atlassian's Confluence? $4K for the entire University allows you to
set up your own instance -- create books, etc.
Has a bunch of plugins to create diff apps. It's a hybrid of sorts.
Sally
Gilbert, TLT Group: what's the social networking component?
Jose
Lepervanche: I have used Connect, PageOut and others and all depend on the
publisher ou are using
Beth
Dailey: Thanks Cynthia, I got in
Arta
Szathmary: discussions, sharing etc are in there
Jose
Lepervanche: I am currently using Glo-Bus simulation by McGrawHiil and we want
to change book. This means we have to use another simulation.
Irina
Ivliyeva, Missouti S&T: Our school cooperates with Wylie e book publishers.
Arta
Szathmary: It really all needs to be connected for the student
GeorgeBrett:
Confluence has a comment form that is hierarchical that allows it to act as a
responsive environment (social media). Also, if permitted the pages can be
"edited" by participants.
Arta
Szathmary: The publishers can provide the learning modules
Jose
Lepervanche: I have tested several social media sites trying to add content.
for example, books and assignments in Facebook groups. It did not work for me.
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Vanessa
Wright: Does anyone know of any articles or studies that show that social media
can be used to enhance learning?
I was
fortunate to have some students in my office when this request came in.Their
responses were;Twitter and Facebook.The reasons varied from;1.Because everyone
is on them.2.The faculty would have access to the same technological social
outlets as their students which could lead to a better understanding of their
students.3.They would be able to communicate through these sites with their
students.4.It’s fun.In my opinion I would have them look into both of these
sites, along with Linkden.
GeorgeBrett:
Twitter is a good "back channel" tool which drives some teachers
nuts, but help shy students work together sometimes with hash tags.
Arta
Szathmary: Jane Hart www.c4lpt.co.uk
Jose
Lepervanche: Last year I presented in NISOD about information overload of
social media, etc.
suehellman:
I'd recommend Diigo as a way for students to collaborate to dhare the resources
they find as they do research. It's very easy to set up a class files and there
are apps for all sorts of devices.
Beth
Dailey: A colleague shared this with me, Social media Explained, http://www.mymodernmet.com/profiles/blogs/social-media-explained-with-donuts
Arta
Szathmary: diigo
Jose
Lepervanche: We moved from assignments in FB to just a page to post current
topics. https://www.facebook.com/nextmanager
Steve
Gilbert, TLT Group: The app I think faculty should try is Diigo. I use Diigo as a place to bookmark
supplemental readings for students in my asynchronous courses. They can also bookmark and share any articles
that they find pertinent to the topic in the Diigo group.What I do is set up a
Diigo group for each class I teach. I
invite students during week 1 to join the Diigo group for "coffee
shop" or "watercooler" types of discussions. For example, if I come across an article
today in week 10 of class that pertains to week 3's materials, I can't go back
and require students to read it. I post
it in Diigo to share and ask students to comment if they wish. Sometimes we have a lively discussion, other
times not so much.I also find Diigo a lifesaver for me professionally and
personally. It is much easier to
bookmark websites and articles that I want to keep than with any other system
I've used.Just my thoughts!!! Cheers,KathyKathy D. Munoz, EdD, RD
GeorgeBrett:
As for curating content Scoop.it and
Paper.li are good tools to share
suehellman:
Diigo -- to clarify -- it's a social bookmarking service
Beth
Dailey: Hi George, I have used ScoopIt and really like it
Herb: Of
course, the first question is, "what do you wish to acomplish with Social
networking?"
Arta
Szathmary: join.me for a quick meetup
Jose
Lepervanche: Then, I added Twitter widget to a discussion board and it is cool
to share tweets inside a forum.
suehellman:
problem with Scoop.it is that unless you pay, only one person can add resources
Taimi
Olsen: I'm trying Diigo this semester, but some students are having trouble
with the technology--to make notes in Diigo.
Any suggestions?
Jose
Lepervanche: Delicious is my favorite
Taimi
Olsen: I use Delicious. It's easier.
Amanda
Wilson: I use Tumblr to organize links and resources to tag because anyone who
follows can easily grab those and make their own list.
Jose
Lepervanche: Here is my page https://delicious.com/jlepervanche
GeorgeBrett:
What about Netvibes? as an Aggregation
point?
Christina
Seeger: Sally: They aren't savvy enough to separate their gmail account and
keep work things from seeping into personal. I keep trying . . .
Jose
Lepervanche: You can see most of them in my Widgets and Gadgets presentation www.webmedialab.org
Irina
Ivliyeva, Missouti S&T: WOW! thank you for these great tips... !
GeorgeBrett:
but it still works, Steve
Amanda
Wilson: Just starting out, Diigo is probably easiest. I use it with my
undergrads.
Beth
Dailey: I thought delicious was defunct
suehellman:
yes -- can annotate, highlight
GeorgeBrett:
Howard Rheingold used DIIGO in a series of webinars last year
Christina
Seeger: Diigo has a lot of great featues for annotation and such -- great for
my professional students, too
Jose
Lepervanche: Cool, I will test Diigo. I am know testing Scoop it
Maida
Tilchen: I love an iPad app called Zite.
You tell it your interests and it feeds great web items like a clipping
service. Then you can email, FB, tweet etc to send it on. I can see using it
for a course topic.
Amanda
Wilson: Delicious was going under but was bought and now still exists
Sally
Gilbert, TLT Group: @ Christina this is
important for us to know.
Irina
Ivliyeva, Missouti S&T: I have not use much of anything above... YET!
Beth
Dailey: Thanks Amanda
GeorgeBrett:
Delicious was bought out and may disappear soon
Jose
Lepervanche: Well, I still see my delicious page, haha
Janet
Jordan, University of Connecticut: I used to use Delicious alot but switched to
Diigo when the announcement was made that Delicious was going away.
Sally
Gilbert, TLT Group: I can't see my delicious page anymore
Classroom
2.0 Live session on how to use Diigo in education
GeorgeBrett:
BLOG = NEWSLETTER --- just like the old
days
Arta
Szathmary: If you already ask student to write a journal, blog is great
Jose
Lepervanche: Blogs? yes? I tried blogs and yes it helps if you keep it updated.
www.learningedge.org
Sally
Gilbert, TLT Group: @George - but they can be created collaboratively!
Taimi
Olsen: love the donuts!
Jose
Lepervanche: It is a lot of writing and many talk about the same topic. You
really have to be unique for your students.
Amanda
Wilson: I'm a big fan of tumblr because there's so much functionality-you get
the tagging, the ability to follow others, and it accepts links, text, images,
audio, video, etc.
GeorgeBrett:
Google+ circle might be interesting use -- allows for growth and could be
managed if that's important
suehellman:
Posterous is a really easy and free for blogging. You can post by sending
emails.
Jose
Lepervanche: Wordpress
Ann G
Pearlman: Most say Angel and Blackboard Blogs are not that good.
suehellman:
Wikis are also great for collaborating -- Wikispaces is free for educators at
all levels now.
Herb:
Tumblr is as aeasy as those two
Arta
Szathmary: Blogger is there
GeorgeBrett:
MUWordpress - multiUser WordPress
Ann G
Pearlman: Blogger or PBworks
Janet
Jordan, University of Connecticut: The problem with Blogs is the hosting. Free
accounts can have limitations, advertizing, disappear, etc.
Jose
Lepervanche: Wordpress is easy to use for blogs
<an
example for links/resources
Sally
Gilbert, TLT Group: what are the categories?
blog, bookmarking ....
Jose
Lepervanche: Google sites too
Julie Zhu:
Canvas LMS is very good
Herb:
Formspring is a quick way to start a dialog.
Jose
Lepervanche: hehe, we now have Chat Overload. :-)
Arta
Szathmary: Disadvantage of inside lms is that is gone after class ends
Ann G
Pearlman: I look for ones that provide good "how to's"
Eric Werth
2: They may not be the best out there, but I still like the ones in a
university LMS because students are use to the sites and everthing can be kept
in one place.
GeorgeBrett:
Unv of Mary Washington will take a graduating students blog and zip it and then
lets student move it to a hosting site -- zap -- a personal e-portfolio
Sally
Gilbert, TLT Group: nice
Jose
Lepervanche: See all my online overloaded resources in www.teleducator.net. I
did it to organize myself. this is my index / map website.
Amanda
Wilson: yes
Christina
Seeger: Depending -- a wiki might still work for many projects
suehellman:
I'd add creating a wiki for collaborative projects
GeorgeBrett:
Thanks again Jose
Maida
Tilchen: The current issue of Wired has a terrific story about Reddit. I'm not sure how it would be used for
courses, but it's a fascinating article. It will be online for free next month
on the Wired site.
Joy Mark:
@Arta - the institution may want to consider changing its archive & access
policy
Arta
Szathmary: Out of my control -- I am a part-time teacher
GeorgeBrett:
My collection of OPEN Research and Education tools in Scoop.it: http://www.scoop.it/t/open-research-learning/
Steve
Gilbert, TLT Group: EXTERMISSION NOW UNDERWAY FOR SHARING INFO OUTWARD
Steve
Gilbert, TLT Group: 75 SECONDS TO GO
GeorgeBrett:
can I talk briefly?
suehellman:
Suggestions for using Posterous in education -- http://howdoi.posterous.com/how-do-i-use-posterous-for-education
GeorgeBrett:
or is this quiet for all
Taimi
Olsen: Amanda, thanks for the list. My
son (who has learning challenges) loves online flashcards.
Steve
Gilbert, TLT Group: SHARING of any kind ok!
Maida
Tilchen: The current Wired also has a great article about Stanford open
courses, including how the 160,000! students around the world built their own
social media to interact, which wasn't part of what Stanford offered.
Steve
Gilbert, TLT Group: sHARING outward best
Taimi
Olsen: Flashcard machine has a phone app too.
He can study anywhere and keep organized.
GeorgeBrett:
How do I talk?
Jose
Lepervanche: Socially online you can follow @DrLepervanche in Twitter, LinkedIn
and Facebook. I post about emerging technologies, leadership, management, and
current events related to our management courses.
Steve
Gilbert, TLT Group: 15 Seconds left
Irina
Ivliyeva, Missouti S&T: I love using thechnology, but lately I feel that
there are too many programs/media/ tools that simply dress up differently while
using the same functions. What happened with "if it isn't broken, do not
fix it"?
Sally
Gilbert, TLT Group: George- steve can call on you
Jose
Lepervanche: I use MIT Technology Acceptance model to select applications I
want to keep.
Maida
Tilchen: I'd like to hear from anyone using a FB page as their course site
Irina
Ivliyeva, Missouti S&T: Today is fine...
GeorgeBrett:
Oh well -- after 30+ years of Academic Computing Support -- I'd say there is a
lot of circular activity in the apps. Perhaps guidelines would be best --
Jose
Lepervanche: My younger son toll me once: "You adult are messing with MY
Facebook". He may be right.
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Jose
Lepervanche: Ithink that LinkedIn provides a professional space to post work
and business relationships
Sally
Gilbert, TLT Group: @ Irina- I'm with you!
suehellman:
My Scoop.it on mobile apps -- http://www.scoop.it/t/ceet-moodle-meet-reources-oct-2011-mlearning
GeorgeBrett:
RATS -- thanks
Arta
Szathmary: Did you know that there is a "google certification" for
educators? Aimed at k-12, but I think we
at higher ed should also be included
Jose
Lepervanche: Cool Curated by Sue Hellman . I am following you.
Sally
Gilbert, TLT Group: not seeing the right slide
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suehellman:
@Jose -- thanks If you send suggestions I'll be sure to add to the collection.
Arta
Szathmary: sue, I am following you too
GeorgeBrett:
I see Caveats and Guidlines too
suehellman:
@Arta -- welcome and pls. send suggestions to make the list more "higher
ed" pertinent
Irina
Ivliyeva, Missouti S&T: Thank you, Sally! I personally like LinkedIn - it
is more "serious" than Facebook.. to me atleast..
Joy Mark:
@Irina I think that we'll see more "look alike" apps as more tools
become available for "non-coders" to create their own app
Beth
Dailey: I love your ScoopIt page Sue, I set one up but have not been adding to it regularly
Jose
Lepervanche: Yes sue, i sent to my wife who is doing a master in online
education and researching in mobile education. Thanks.
suehellman:
Re: Scoop.it -- be sure to tag as you add resources to make it easy for others
to peruse the collection. I've seen some that are 30+ pages with no tags!!! Too
difficult to find anything. Tagging is easy.
Sally
Gilbert, TLT Group: ok
Arta
Szathmary: should students become transliterate?
Ann G
Pearlman: Have to go thank you
GeorgeBrett:
Joy have you seen "Yahoo Pipes" ?
it is nifty erector set to filter information
Arta
Szathmary: anybody teaching app inventor
suehellman:
I have another for higher ed -- http://www.scoop.it/t/educational-mixology
GeorgeBrett:
Curation of information and info resources is growing in importance
Michelle
Emelle: have to go, Thanks
Irina
Ivliyeva, Missouti S&T: Thank you, Steve and Sally and TLT group! Have a
great time in Chicago next week! Have to
go now...
Joy Mark:
@George I heard about it when Pipes opened up, but like too many other things
I'd like to explore, I never had the time. Do you have an example?
Beth
Dailey: Here is another Scoopit site related to mobile learning http://www.scoop.it/t/mobile-learning
GeorgeBrett:
bummer, I thought I had audio fixed.
Jose
Lepervanche: I also use PAper.li that integrate tweets in a newsletter.
www.drjose.org
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Jose
Lepervanche: I found that Google Scholar is easy for students finding
references
suehellman:
@Beth -- I'll link to that ffrom mine as well.
Jose
Lepervanche: What about archive.org for sharing. I have not used yet??
Joy Mark: A
general comment: one thing I struggle with in my own life (&
institutionally) is ~aspirational~ technology. I intend to use all these great
tools in new, exciting, & innovative ways, only to fall back into old
habits & patterns and not getting much benefit from new tools. Does anybody else encounter
this, and how do you respond?
suehellman:
My guideline -- even with a simple tool -- use it yourself for personal or
professional purpuses first and then involve students. It's easier to get them
excited about a tool you really like and in which you see potential. They'll
then expand the uses in directions you may not have anticipated.
GeorgeBrett:
old habits and patterns are not bad -- we need bridges to move us from
different tools into the newer ones
GeorgeBrett:
so how to move from mimeo page to photo copy to e-copy?
Jose
Lepervanche: I agree with Sue. Test first. I normally test new technologies in
my Information Systems class as all of this is part of the course topics.. I
called my Web Media Lab.
Beth
Dailey: I like your point about providing a bridge to something new
Arta
Szathmary: One of the things I like about www.c4lpt.co.uk
is that there is a rating of tools. I
don't have time to try them all, so I can pick the the "pick of the
litter" based on other's reviews
suehellman:
@Joy -- I'd involve the students in coming up with new ideas and uses.
GeorgeBrett:
so, an inventory of activities might be worth while... so at least there are
objective goals pursued
GeorgeBrett:
Thhinking of Kevin Kellies 91 book New Rules for New Economy and ClueTrain
Manifesto are still relevant
suehellman:
@Arta -- Jane is great -- can also subscribe to her pick of the day and have a
new idea come to your inbox each day.
GeorgeBrett:
can I try again
Joy Mark:
On a related note: Most good tools aren't just new ways to do old things, but
offer the opportunity for "disruption". Disruption is time consuming
: )
GeorgeBrett:
I need a mic icon plz
Beth
Dailey: George, in the inventory idea, might we share an activity and describe
the bridge
Steve
Gilbert, TLT Group: kGeorge is a MUCH more capable techie than I've ever been!
suehellman:
@Joy -- agreed -- once you are comfortable with using a tool to do old tasks,
time can be given to conserind new afforcances -- ways using the tool can
dhange what you do or open new possibilitieis.
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